Confused between 3 cup veggie limit and majority of carbs need to be veggies

[veggieloverco]

Okay reread my book last night (specifically the Induction/Extended Induction and Starting OWL chapters)

If following the book and I am allowed 3 cups of salad veggies or 2 cups and one other veggie....I'm confused how that is supposed to be the majority of my carbs for the day.

Example:

For the day I eat 2 cups of mixed salad greens averaging about .8 net carbs for the 2 cups.

I then choose to have one cup from the other list...lets say 1 small tomato for 3.2 carbs.

That's 4 veggie carbs for the day.

So if I ate 20 carbs for the day....I am hardly getting most of my carbs from veggies.

Extend that example to Owl 1 - I add on 5 net carbs of veggies. That gets me to 9 veggie carbs out of 25.

Just confused.

[Farley]

Re: Confused between 3 cup veggie limit and majority of carbs need to be veggies

Okay reread my book last night (specifically the Induction/Extended Induction and Starting OWL chapters)

If following the book and I am allowed 3 cups of salad veggies or 2 cups and one other veggie....I'm confused how that is supposed to be the majority of my carbs for the day.

Example:

For the day I eat 2 cups of mixed salad greens averaging about .8 net carbs for the 2 cups.

I then choose to have one cup from the other list...lets say 1 small tomato for 3.2 carbs.

That's 4 veggie carbs for the day.

So if I ate 20 carbs for the day....I am hardly getting most of my carbs from veggies.

Extend that example to Owl 1 - I add on 5 net carbs of veggies. That gets me to 9 veggie carbs out of 25.

Just confused.

"Most" = at least more than half.

"Salad"= anything on the salad list. It is more than just lettuce leaves (of any variety). Peppers and Cucumbers are on the Salad Vegetables list and are higher in carbs than lettuce leaves. They're more dense for starters.

Even INDUCTION: allows you to have: Spahgetti Squash: This works out to 10 NET carbs per CUP!!! Pumpkin is also higher on the glycemic index. Look at some of the carb counts for the veggies and you'll see that getting your 25 net carbs is easier than you think. It can come ENTIRELY from veggies.

[2big4mysize]

Re: Confused between 3 cup veggie limit and majority of carbs need to be veggies

you are doing it wrong.

if you chose to eat only 4 net veggies for induction then you don't get to eat 20 net for the day.
go reread your induction rules. it says you can eat no more then 20 not eat exaxctly 20.

it says the majority of your carbs have to be from your veggies so you can only have 20 if you are eating at least 10.1 net grams of veggies.

when you move to OWl if you only ate 4 net grams of induction veggies carbs you will be adding the 5 net grams of OWL rung one to your legal induction toital which for you should be 7.9 net for a total of 15.9 net for rung one days.

think you might want to remove some of your junk carbs and pick higher carb induction salad veggies?

[veggieloverco]

Re: Confused between 3 cup veggie limit and majority of carbs need to be veggies

you are doing it wrong.

if you chose to eat only 4 net veggies for induction then you don't get to eat 20 net for the day.
go reread your induction rules. it says you can eat no more then 20 not eat exaxctly 20.

it says the majority of your carbs have to be from your veggies so you can only have 20 if you are eating at least 10.1 net grams of veggies.

when you move to OWl if you only ate 4 net grams of induction veggies carbs you will be adding the 5 net grams of OWL rung one to your legal induction toital which for you should be 7.9 net for a total of 15.9 net for rung one days.

think you might want to remove some of your junk carbs and pick higher carb induction salad veggies?

I was just using that as an example.

Right now I tend to be over 3 cups of veggies a day and my veggies are normally 60% of my carbs.
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Farley - good point - I can see how adding some more dense carb veggies would up those limits.

[2big4mysize]

Re: Confused between 3 cup veggie limit and majority of carbs need to be veggies

I was just using that as an example.

Right now I tend to be over 3 cups of veggies a day and my veggies are normally 60% of my carbs.
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Farley - good point - I can see how adding some more dense carb veggies would up those limits.

whether it was just an example or what you actually eat the answer is still the same. if one choses very low carb vegies for their 3 cups then they only get to eat a very low amount of carbs for the day not the full 20 max.

ALSO if you are eating more then 3 cups of veggies you are in OWL rung one.

[atkinsgal08]

Re: Confused between 3 cup veggie limit and majority of carbs need to be veggies

However, as we know from Chapter 14, Dr. Atkins presumes that we're eating 20 net carbs on Induction, so most would be a number greater than 11 coming from Induction vegetables.

[veggieloverco]

Re: Confused between 3 cup veggie limit and majority of carbs need to be veggies

However, as we know from Chapter 14, Dr. Atkins presumes that we're eating 20 net carbs on Induction, so most would be a number greater than 11 coming from Induction vegetables.

I love a large variety of veggies so on those days I end up eating the lower carb ones I can easily be over 3 cups if I want to make sure my veggie carbs are at least 10 for the day.

My understanding is what you said Atkinsgal, that we need to be as close to 20 as possible so a) our body doesn't think it's starving b) to help us get the adequate nutrients.

I think it can be confusing sometimes.

Maybe I am doing it wrong but I try to make sure that each meal has a good fat, some protein and a little bit of veggie. I tend to worry less about the 3 cup limit and more about having my veggie carbs at least 50% of my daily total of 18-20.

[atkinsgal08]

Re: Confused between 3 cup veggie limit and majority of carbs need to be veggies

>>Maybe I am doing it wrong but I try to make sure that each meal has a good fat, some protein and a little bit of veggie. I tend to worry less about the 3 cup limit and more about having my veggie carbs at least 50% of my daily total of 18-20.>>

That's not wrong.

[pstansel]

Re: Confused between 3 cup veggie limit and majority of carbs need to be veggies

I also struggle with my carbs a) being high enough, and b) coming primarily from veggies. I'm getting there, but I tend to get most of my veggie carbs from the 1 cup of non salad veggies. I admit I eat a lot of lettuce. I need to start branching out to get more carbs from the two cups!

[JulieB]

Re: Confused between 3 cup veggie limit and majority of carbs need to be veggies

The trick is to do what Farley says: choose higher-carb (and more nutritious) veggies. Eating more than 3 cups is not the answer.

[Farley]

Re: Confused between 3 cup veggie limit and majority of carbs need to be veggies

Squashes and Gourds that are on the acceptable foods list are not only nutritious and "carb dense" but they are also DELICIOUS.

[JulieB]

Re: Confused between 3 cup veggie limit and majority of carbs need to be veggies

>>Maybe I am doing it wrong but I try to make sure that each meal has a good fat, some protein and a little bit of veggie. I tend to worry less about the 3 cup limit and more about having my veggie carbs at least 50% of my daily total of 18-20.>>

That's not wrong.

Can you tell me where in DANDR it states that ignoring the 3 cup rule is 'the right way to do it'? This board goes by DANDR '02.

[CalicoPrairie]

Re: Confused between 3 cup veggie limit and majority of carbs need to be veggies

I know what you mean! I am learning which veggies are higher in carbs and adding those after I have my 2 cups of salad veggies. I tend to look at my veggie carb count over my cup count as well, trying to hit over 11 veggie carbs per day. I'm gonna have to really FILL my fridge with veggies next week when I switch to OWL rung 1---I'm eating us out of house and home lately--veggies anyway!

Anyway, sounds like you are doing well.

[atkinsgal08]

Re: Confused between 3 cup veggie limit and majority of carbs need to be veggies

Can you tell me where in DANDR it states that ignoring the 3 cup rule is 'the right way to do it'? This board goes by DANDR '02.

Sorry. I wasn't quite clear with what I was referring to with my comment "That's not wrong".

I was specifically referring to Veggieloverco's comment:

"I try to make sure that each meal has a good fat, some protein and a little bit of veggie."

And yes, I'm quite aware that this board goes by DANDR 2002.