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  • #46
    Re: Reasons to be married...

    Interesting turn. I've also heard that men are biologically programmed to impregnant as many females as possible (to pass on his genes) and that women are programmed to mate with the 'best' man and not want him to stray (so that all his resources go to her offspring).

    Both actions have the same goal - passing on your genes - but they're obviously at cross-purposes. However, I don't think it means all is lost and it's hopeless to even try. There are other actions that have evolved right along with those, and are equally compelling, in my opinion.

    Men risk(ed) their lives to provide for women. Women set up support networks as safety nets should their man die. This behaviour manifests itself differently now that there aren't mastadons to hunt for dinner, but in the end, men and women's roles can be very complementary.

    The problem, in my opinion, comes when the balance is lost. Take, for example, the part in the bible about women submitting. That's exceedingly offensive taken on its own, but when you consider the flip side of that is that men have full responsibility for the family. That includes not only money, but spiritual guidance and protection. Men can only expect women to follow their leadership when they are fair and compassionate. That part seems to get lost...

    Remember, equal doesn't mean duplicates.

    Took me a long time to learn that one. Fair doesn't necessarily mean a split down the middle. The overall balance is what is important, not each individual detail.

    Laura
    32 - 5'3" - female
    175 - 130 - 130



    I wish I could say we're all equal, but the truth is Cleo's the cutest.

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    • #47
      Re: Reasons to be married...

      oh wow...

      I didn't want to start arguments by my thread!!! I just wanted some reasons to persuade my guy over to my thinking!!!



      Thanks for all your support everyone!!
      ~Jenn
      Height: 5'6
      188/188/145

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      • #48
        Re: Reasons to be married...

        Originally posted by speedygt03
        Maybe someone has said something to him to spook him. Maybe when he gave you the fist ring, you told someone that he was going to get you an angagement ring and word got around to him and it scared him. Alot of things could have happened. Like i said, i feel like im in the same shoes as you. There is no doubt in my mind that he loves you. thats a given. But as far as, maybe you should evaluate the relationship b\c he now doesnt want to marry, i think differently. Well....it could go both ways I guess. Something had to happen, something was said or he was treated differently. the possibilities are endless. I think you should just let it be for a while and see where it goes. If you know you want to be with him, and YOU KNOW he loves you, dont push it. He wanted to in the first place so obviously somethings up. Just give it time, dont give up on it.
        I'm wondering if someone said something to him too about the horrors of marriage!! LOL


        and to respond to some other people...

        he's never said to me that he doesn't want to be with me forever. quite the opposite. He says that he wants us to be together forever. THat we will be. But in his view, everyone that's been together for a long time and then gets married... gets divorced. I think that's his point.

        We talked about it again, and he is more afraid of losing me by us getting married than by us NOT getting married... i dunno, it makes sense in his head.

        anyway, i'm in no rush to get married and maybe he just needs to mature a bit to the idea? I'm not ready to give up on my relationship with him. Or find someone else to marry just because marriage isn't his "thing". I'm not giving up on the love that he and I have, and marrying someone that I don't love (as much or less or whatever) just because that person DOES want to get married!!!

        LOL... anyway... thank you again all!!!

        I must admit though (and excuse me for playing devil's advocate) but the arguing is actually mildly entertaining!!!

        tee hee hee
        ~Jenn
        Height: 5'6
        188/188/145

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        • #49
          Re: Reasons to be married...

          Originally posted by IceQueenJ
          I must admit though (and excuse me for playing devil's advocate) but the arguing is actually mildly entertaining!!!

          tee hee hee
          Yeah, it's entertaining until someone pokes someone's eye out.

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          • #50
            Re: Reasons to be married...

            Originally posted by wannabethintoo
            Yeah, it's entertaining until someone pokes someone's eye out.
            just don't argue about it in person!!!
            ~Jenn
            Height: 5'6
            188/188/145

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            • #51
              Re: Reasons to be married...

              Originally posted by IceQueenJ
              just don't argue about it in person!!!
              Excellent idea!

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              • #52
                Re: Reasons to be married...

                Jenn, I'm kinda concerned that you think this guy is the only one you could possibly love, and you've been with him since you were 16.

                Now, I absolutely think it's possible that you've met your soul mate at that age (I met mine at 15), but how would you know if you've never dated anyone else?

                Just for a minute, imagine that how you feel about us pestering you is the way he feels about you pestering him. You want us to just quit about it, right?

                Trust me when I say this because I have your best interests at heart - you do not need to be married to someone who had to be talked into it. If you are meant to be with this guy, you will be. If your relationship can't stand you two being apart for even just a little while, it can't stand you being married.

                None of us are trying to talk you out of marrying the guy. We just want you to be making a fully informed decision. I know what you're thinking, because I've been there myself. You know that we couldn't possibly understand your situation and that your relationship is different than what we're talking about and that we're not taking you seriously because you're young. Close?

                Just know this: Marriage is not the prize in a debate. Marriage is a committment between two individuals and must be entered into willingly by both parties. You 'win' nothing by trapping a man into a relationship he doesn't want.

                Laura
                32 - 5'3" - female
                175 - 130 - 130



                I wish I could say we're all equal, but the truth is Cleo's the cutest.

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                • #53
                  Re: Reasons to be married...

                  oh no no no...


                  i've been with LOTS Of guys. lol. I've been in love before... it wasn't the same as it is now.

                  i'm 27 years old. My bf and I have been together since I was 24.
                  I agree with you. If he were the only one I had ever been with, I think i'd be talking crazy talk too!!!

                  and I totally agree. I don't want to force anyone into anything they don't want to be a part of!!!!
                  ~Jenn
                  Height: 5'6
                  188/188/145

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                  • #54
                    Re: Reasons to be married...

                    Well. iin the end, marriage is about making that commitment you feel for each other legally recognized. If you aren't going to be married anytime soon, maybe you should think about going to a lawyer and take care of the wills, advance directives and medical power of attorney, since as Brooke pointed out, you have no legal connection to each other. Some states may recognize things like a "common law wife" or have some other designation for a significant other, but if you are going to plan a life together, then you need to make sure that you are taking care of each other. Do you have insurance that designates each other as beneficiaries. If you buy a house, whose name will it be in or will you buy in jointly? If you have children, whose insurance will they be covered under?

                    To me marriage is about planning a solid future together and taking care of each other, as opposed to being "dependent" on another person. Personally, I never thought I'd be married! Been married now for 23 years -- during all that time, I never changed my name, and we have kept separate banking accounts, credit cards, etc. Some people find that very weird, but you have to do what works for you.

                    Good luck and best wishes in planning your future!
                    277/180/160ish -- started 7/28/03 --F

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                    • #55
                      Re: Reasons to be married...

                      Originally posted by IceQueenJ
                      i'm 27 years old. My bf and I have been together since I was 24.
                      I agree with you. If he were the only one I had ever been with, I think i'd be talking crazy talk too!!!

                      and I totally agree. I don't want to force anyone into anything they don't want to be a part of!!!!
                      Whew! Although, I still think you should take a breather and let him chase you for a bit...

                      Laura
                      32 - 5'3" - female
                      175 - 130 - 130



                      I wish I could say we're all equal, but the truth is Cleo's the cutest.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Reasons to be married...

                        Cyber eye poking? Yikes!

                        *runs and hides*


                        5'4"
                        45 yrs (F) a.k.a. "Butterbean"
                        Start date 5/18/2003
                        197/163.5/130

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                        • #57
                          Re: Reasons to be married...

                          Originally posted by MotherOfGizmo
                          Cyber eye poking? Yikes!

                          *runs and hides*
                          Yeah, haven't you ever been cyber eye poked? It's not pretty.

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                          • #58
                            Re: Reasons to be married...

                            Nope. I've been cyber b*tch slapped though, more than once I might add!


                            5'4"
                            45 yrs (F) a.k.a. "Butterbean"
                            Start date 5/18/2003
                            197/163.5/130

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                            • #59
                              Re: Reasons to be married...

                              Originally posted by MotherOfGizmo
                              Nope. I've been cyber b*tch slapped though, more than once I might add!
                              No! You? I'm very surprised.

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                              • #60
                                Re: Reasons to be married...

                                Originally posted by wannabethintoo
                                No! You? I'm very surprised.
                                ...Just kidding....

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