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  • Two roads...

    I am the first one to say, dont take advise from strangers on the internet.. but here we are...

    A choice of two roads.

    I have two jobs waiting for me.

    Job A:

    Admin Payroll Position, working 3p-11.30p, about 15 min from home for a major resort. Desk work, mostly by myself, 12.00 hour, 40 hrs a week. Insurance kicks in first of the month, following hire. Very friendly environment, lots of room for advancement. 10 holidays, 12 vacation days a year, 3 sick days. SEVERLY discounted vacation opportunities... employee rates are about a fourth of what the General Public pays. Sometimes pennies on the dollar. Opportunities for overtime, if I want them. better income increasing potential. 401K after a year, etc. In this job, I pull my kids out of school (we ARE having problems with the school, I am seriously upset with them.), they would go to daycare 2:30 - 6:00, then to my folks until I pick them up sleeping. It allows me to homeschool, minimal child care, etc. Downside... my folks SAY that they are fine with having them, but it is clear that with my dad there are issues about this... he isnt thrilled about them being here all the time, though he will do it, cause my mom says so. Also, I would miss dinner and bedtime, soccer practices,etc. BUT I miss out on only 5 hours of their day. I also have concerns about some of the things that my dad tells them, etc. He doesnt get how I am raising them (is going out of his way to counter what I have told them about Christmas and Santa)...etc... But they would be with family.

    JOb B:

    Right down the road, from where we are, and where I am looking to live. Admin Asst position for a retirement community (where my folks live), working with maintenance and grounds... Desk work, mostly by myself. 13-14 an hour/40 hrs a wk. They promote women aggressively, and from within, aggressively. Insurance kicks in in 90 days ( a draw back, I would like to see a dentist NOW)..they pay all the employees insurance, but with the family coverage, it is still slightly more expensive insurance than the other. 12 holidays, 10 vacation, 10 sick. Hours 6:30 am to 3:00 pm. I would drop the kids with my folks at 6:30, they would go to the YMCA at 7:30, and then to school. My youngest in child care at 12:00 till I pick him up at 3:00, I would be able to get the other two from school. They are very family friendly, all the bosses have been single moms, so they say that they are very understanding about sick kids, conferences, etc. Upsides: I would be there for all afternoon and dinner time, so I would get to make all the practices, etc, and not upset bedtime. BUT, I wouldnt get to homeschool them, unless I put them in daycare all morning, like it was summer time, which IS an option. I am having really serious issues with the school they are in, and am really anxious to get them out of it. I lose 9.5 hours of their day, and we are perhaps a bit more rushed to get everything in... the gym, etc... In this job, I could take a position that has been offered to me at the Body Shop as a part time asst mngr, so I could supplement our income that way, 12 hours a week, not much, but enough to keep the kids in swim lessons.

    SO.. thoughts.. input... I am flailing about with this one... And looking for any insights I can get.

    I KNOW most folks dont understand why I am so avidly a BE HOME home mom/ homeschooler, but I am. My folks have already tried the "why dont you just let it go, every other family does this eleven hours a day (daycare adn school), its NORMAL"... normal for everyone else doesnt mean that it is best for my family, or in line with my vision of what should be. I cant tell you why this is so life or death to me, just that it is, to be able to do as much of the raising of my children as I can do, and to make the most impact possible.

    Perhaps an objective brain will see something mine cant.

    Anyhow, at the very worst, thanks so much for listening.
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  • #2
    Re: Two roads...

    okay so both jobs expose your kids to your dad so leave that out as an reason pro or con to take the job

    Have you discussed with their doc the effects of the waking to go home each night on their health. sleep in consectutive hours is important.

    so that leaves time with family to home school or not home school.
    looks like that is very very important to you. Have you checked out the homeschool rules for your state to be sure you are qualified educationally to do so?
    Are you sure you can handle having no free time for you since you will be putting in required hours teaching them and working
    what about socialization for the kids that is an important skill learned in school. geeting a long with other kids, learning to stand your ground for your posisiton when others don't agree. Will you be joining other home schoolers for group activities?
    Does your personality and your kids mess. I know we have one mom here who butted heads at ever turn with one child and did great with the other child so one wnet pubic and one was homeschooled.
    Can you resolve your issues with some parent teacher administator meetings?

    and no matter what our input is you know in your heart and mind your answer will come from above so look there first.
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    • #3
      Re: Two roads...

      It seems like you will be run ragged.

      Is there any Christian/private school that would be an option?

      Do you have any other mothers/friends who homeschool where you could share the burden? (One week on/one week off?)

      Something to try: Make two columns for each job and put "Pros" and "Cons" below each. Now add in your thoughts in each column and see which one comes out the best.

      Let us know what you decide.

      ~Kat
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      • #4
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        I'd go for Job B, unless you decide to homeschool. I think it's awfully hard for you to miss out on their entire lives unless you did pull them out and homeschool them and change everyone's schedule to mesh with yours.

        My mom worked 3:30-11:30 when I was young and I'll be honest. I missed her. My dad was in the miliatary in a foreign nation and I was the one who took care of little sister. I saw my mom for 30 minutes a day. She died when I was 13, but I honestly never knew her.
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        • #5
          Re: Two roads...

          I'd select Job B...not only for the hours, but for the advancement potential. I agree with comments above...like the idea of resolving the issues at the school (new teacher?) or the church schools. The hours in the afternoon, evenings are so important...personally I loved that times with my kids.

          But, it sounds like the homeschooling is really important to you, and it sounds like you've more heavily weighted it compared to the other pros and cons. It looks like that is the big decision.
          Shelly

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          • #6
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            Well.. it has been decided. Job A offered, Job B did not. We will be pulling out of school and changing up once me schedule is cemented. I was really praying for job B, but this will be okay too.

            At this point, I am on the three year plan... Three years here, in one job, get finanically stable, child support enforced, and saved, and then I am going to apply for every dispatch job in every small town across the country. That suits, and feels fine.

            We can do this for three years. My oldest is bummed that I wont be home for bedtime, but I am going to be spending most of the day with them actively involved, so we will adjust, and be better off, I am sure.

            All things work together for good.
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            Earth is crammed with heaven,
            And every common bush afire with God,
            But only he who sees, takes off his shoes.
            Elizabeth Barrett Browning



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            Water intake .5 -1 gallon.
            Exercise 60 minutes 5x week
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            • #7
              Re: Two roads...

              Congrats on the job WP! Hey, since you're so close to home, could you have dinner with kids in the evening?
              Shelly

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              • #8
                Re: Two roads...

                what about socialization for the kids that is an important skill learned in school. geeting a long with other kids, learning to stand your ground for your posisiton when others don't agree. Will you be joining other home schoolers for group activities?
                This jumped out at me and as a former homeschooler, it's one of those things that ALWAYS chapped my hide, so I'm gonna comment on this real quicklike before I throw ya my $.02 WP

                When is the last time you were in a situation with 30 other adults the same age you are from the same neighborhood and how was that any gauge of your level of appropriate socialization?! I can tell you that some of the more lovely social skills my children have learned have come from a public school environment, i.e., swearing, making fun of others, spitting - and those are just a couple of the high spots

                A real measure of social apptitude has nothing to do with a classroom. The true measure of socialization is the fact that my children can walk into any situation, with any group of people of any age, religion, ethnicity, etc and carry an appropriate conversation. 99% of the time, they can do so better than most other children I know/see. I think it's important to note that PUBLIC SCHOOLING is what's NEW, not homeschooling. Homeschooling has been going on since the beginning of time. The same can not be said for the public school classroom. Abe Lincoln seemed to be just fine and enlightened socially, don't you think?

                Side note: Homeschooling is not an implication of social recluses. It's such an unfair assumption!!

                For those with concerns about socialization of homeschooled children- I think this sums it up beautifully: http://www.tnhomeed.com/LRSocial.html

                <Deep Breath>
                </soapbox>

                WP- They're both great offers and I know what a struggle that's been for you!! I'm thrilled that you've got choices and good ones at that!

                Personally, I'd be more inclined to go with Job B - It still gives you the option of homeschooling (although it'd be tight schedule wise!), let's you be home for the evening stuff and bedtime, allows you to rely less on family, pays better and gives you more vacation time, which also translates into more time with the kids. Working for a company that you already know is going to be family-friendly is a huge benefit in my opinion. Depending on the offset of benefits cost- the extra pay may cover that?? -Although the 90 day wait really bites

                That's what I see.

                I wish you the best of everything. You and yours deserve it.

                Hugs!
                ~Brook

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                • #9
                  Re: Two roads...

                  One of the reasons I stopped homeschooling was due to lack of socialization. We were so busy with studies the kids were extremely lonely and became sullen and depressed.

                  I think it's defeinitely a YMMV situation.

                  The education was absolutely better, but unless a person is extremely able and willing to get the kids into myriad social situations on a weekly basis (which I felt would disrupt the schedule), it is difficult to get that interaction in there. It's why I eventually placed them back in school and supplement their education.
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                  • #10
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                    Interesting. I incorporated sports, activities, etc into our school days as part of their overall education and daily schedule and found it to be a completely enriching experience for them It wasn't a schedule disruption but rather part of their schedule and a non-negotiable part of it at that. In my experiences in the homeschooling world, that's the rule rather than the exception, but maybe that was just our area/cirlce.

                    I guess YMMV.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Two roads...

                      As I said... YMMV! ;^)

                      I loved homeschooling, and I think it is definitely an endeavor that's worth the effort for those who find it to fit their kids' temperaments and educational styles.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Two roads...

                        Good luck. I hope it gets you everything you andyour family needs. here in TN they just passed a law that allows homeshoolers to be part of the extracurriculars too like music and sports according to my cousin who home schools. you might want to see if your state allows for this too if your kids go for that stuff.



                        what about socialization for the kids that is an important skill learned in school. geeting a long with other kids, learning to stand your ground for your posisiton when others don't agree. Will you be joining other home schoolers for group activities?
                        When is the last time you were in a situation with 30 other adults the same age you are from the same neighborhood and how was that any gauge of your level of appropriate socialization?!
                        eacatly where did I say they needed to only get that in regular school?
                        see that was why I ask if she was getting together with other homeschoolers for social interaction and speeled out the interactions i was worried about. those are valuble social skills kids learn from interaction with other kids. The other stuff mentioned well we as parents need to make sure they learn the correct ways to deal with those situations too. Afterall they will be exposed to it when they reach adulthood so better to learn how to handle it as a kid. okay my soapbox stand.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Two roads...

                          Actually.. to throw my two cents in..

                          In our schools, the kids no longer get recess. For six and a half hours, they sit, at a desk, and follow directions. No talking in groups, no large group projects... They get 10 minutes to eat their lunch, and 15 minutes to play, less time than an adult working 6.5 hours a day would get. Even PE is regimented.. laps, jumping jacks, sit ups.. no dodge ball, no soccer, no kickball, etc. It makes me very sad.

                          We were always more social prior to being in public school. Now we run home, have snack, do homework, and then it's time for dinner and bed.

                          SO. The second job went to someone else. So homeschool, for better or worse, it will be. No more food guide pyramid, no more struggle between halloween and santa claus and evolutionary theory... no more principal making veiled threats to turn me into the social services for educational neglect because I dont think my six year old needs to be medicated because he is a bit 'restless in class'. SIGH OF RELIEF.

                          AND... to add to the mix... highway patrol finally called today. They have had my app for 9 months. And I was on the first list. SO they are a bit slow. I am all torn up, I am supposed to start this new job MOnday. Highway Patrol wants to do interviews second week in January. This is my dream job, where my heart is. I will start this new job, but if HP offers for me, I know I will leave it for dispatching. THat makes me feel guilty, like I am doing something wrong.

                          But THANKS for the congratulations! It will be nice to have income, and insurance.
                          278/275/271/160


                          Earth is crammed with heaven,
                          And every common bush afire with God,
                          But only he who sees, takes off his shoes.
                          Elizabeth Barrett Browning



                          Daily Goals:
                          No wasted carbs.
                          Water intake .5 -1 gallon.
                          Exercise 60 minutes 5x week
                          Get in the right veggies.

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