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  • #16
    Re: Hey everyone!

    Originally posted by sugarkang View Post
    Because I had a lot of success, I want others to have slower results? Right, because I'm just an evil person... I was on induction for two days and I felt horrible. I lost 1 lb on both days and figured that I didn't need to lose weight that quickly. FYI, I'm at 50g carbs now and STILL losing 02.-0.5 lbs daily.
    50 net carbs or total carbs? Not everyone can afford eating 50 net carbs, regardless of the size they are when starting the diet. If you show us research to prove that your way of doing "Atkins" works better than what Dr. Atkins himself wrote, I would be glad to read it and comment on it. However, if you don't, let's advise members to do things by the book, because what is written there was proved to work for almost everybody. Of course, these are just mathematical probabilities, but you agreed we should go with them.
    "Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an oyster."

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    • #17
      Re: Hey everyone!

      Originally posted by Georgiana View Post
      However, if you don't, let's advise members to do things by the book, because what is written there was proved to work for almost everybody. Of course, these are just mathematical probabilities, but you agreed we should go with them.
      I don't have a problem with doing things "by the book." I never even said to avoid induction. I only said to be careful and to do it on the weekend. If you don't know what induction is like, it can take you by surprise. And you definitely don't want to go to work with the flu. But you wouldn't know because you've never experienced it.

      My fitday average for the week is 82.4g carbs minus 16.1g fiber = 66.3g net carbs. I lost 4.5 lbs just this week.

      You can't just tell everyone you know or don't know to just do induction like it's no big deal. IT'S A BIG DEAL. How do you even know that OP read the book? Don't you think it's unwise to just tell people to go on induction when they don't know what could happen?

      I know there are very insulin sensitive individuals out there who swell with just a few carbs. But are you telling me that most people will get fat by eating 3-4 pieces of toast per day? Because that's 50 carbs right there. GIMME A BREAK.

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      • #18
        Re: Hey everyone!

        Originally posted by sugarkang View Post
        I don't have a problem with doing things "by the book." I never even said to avoid induction. I only said to be careful and to do it on the weekend.
        True, you've just told her it was unnecessary, which is not what mathematical probabilities say. Remember, we agreed to go with them.

        If you don't know what induction is like, it can take you by surprise. And you definitely don't want to go to work with the flu. But you wouldn't know because you've never experienced it.
        While beating a dead horse is certainly a good exercise, I have already explained what one should do in case he or she has a bad "Induction flu". If you had read the book, you would have known this already. The Atkins website doesn't mention this indeed. So instead of worrying whether others have read DANDR, my advice would be to read it yourself -- it would have saved you a lot of trouble!

        You can't just tell everyone you know or don't know to just do induction like it's no big deal. IT'S A BIG DEAL.
        Yes, changing your lifestyle is a big deal and I am the first to admit it. This is why one should do it correctly in the first place. For someone who wants to do Atkins, "correctly" means in the way mathematical probabilities proved it to be correct, i.e. the way Dr. Atkins wrote this diet.

        How do you even know that OP read the book? Don't you think it's unwise to just tell people to go on induction when they don't know what could happen?
        What is unwise is to advise people to start with 50-70 g net carbs. There are remedies for the Induction flu, but then we go back to our dead horse and there are already flies around it.

        I know there are very insulin sensitive individuals out there who swell with just a few carbs. But are you telling me that most people will get fat by eating 3-4 pieces of toast per day? Because that's 50 carbs right there.
        I never said most people would get fat by eating 3-4 pieces of toast, nor did I say the opposite. Besides, those 50 carbs don't come alone, because you are not eating bread, meat, butter and oil. But anyway. What I have said is that in order to do Atkins correctly and maximize your weight loss results, you should follow this "diet" the way it was proved to work best, and that is not by starting from 50-70 g net carbs. You can reach this level during OWL and maintain it if it is below your CCLL. But this is not something that should be done during Induction. At least not on Atkins.

        I was on induction for two days and I felt horrible. I lost 1 lb on both days and figured that I didn't need to lose weight that quickly. FYI, I'm at 50g carbs now and STILL losing 02.-0.5 lbs daily.
        I think there are some chronological inconsistencies here. You said you did Induction for two days and you had the "flu" last week. Let's say you had it Sunday-Monday, because I'm nice and I want to give you enough time. So Sunday and Monday you did Induction and lost a total of 2 lbs. On Tuesday you increased your carbs to xx per day. Today is Monday. From Tuesday to Monday we have 6 days (excluding of course Monday). In total, you lost 15 lbs:
        I started at 185 lbs and have lost 15 lbs on the atkins plan.
        If you lost 13 lbs (15 minus 2) in these 6 days, this is a loss of over 2 lbs per day, not 0.2-0.5 lbs. Even if you started two weeks ago, that makes for a loss of 13 lbs in 13 days (6 days plus another week)... which is 1 lb per day, not 0.2-0.5 lbs. So did you do Induction for more than two days, did you screw up the math in your disadvantage or did you start "Atkins" more than 2 weeks ago, but not with Induction?

        GIMME A BREAK.
        Feel free to take it. I'm not the one holding you here.
        "Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an oyster."

        -- Theodore Roosevelt

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        • #19
          Re: Hey everyone!

          Originally posted by sugarkang View Post

          How so? It's starting with the OWL stage and it's on the Atkins website. .
          The Atkins website does have their own board... if you want to follow and give advice based on their plan, perhaps you would be happier there.

          This site is based upon the 2002 Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution, and advice is given based upon that.

          And I've never gotten Induction flu, either.


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          • #20
            Re: Hey everyone!

            Hello, I too only want to loose about 10 lb, and am on day 4 of complete **** in induction. I have always ate healthily, and am really having a hard time not having fruit and museli, and having to have 'rich' food. Am I on the wrong diet?

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            • #21
              Re: Hey everyone!

              Hi Jasmina! As you can tell, things can get really interesting around here. There are some wonderful people, who have some great advice. Good luck!!!

              Amanda



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