haggis?????

[kittymieow]

ensive does anyone know if you are allowed haggis on the atkins diet?? also what about gravy? ensive

[NulloModo]

Unfortunately, many of the haggis recipes I have seen call for oatmeal to be used in the stuffing, that would make it not OK for Atkins. If you can be assured your haggis was prepared with meat only in the stuffing, and no oats/oatmeal, everything else would be OK.

Per the gravy, it depends on what goes into it. If it is just a stock reduction or something alogn those lines, then it is fine. If it has starches/flour used as thickening agents, it is not.

[Heidi3]

Re: haggis?????

ensive does anyone know if you are allowed haggis on the atkins diet?? also what about gravy? ensive

you are enhancing the myth about Scots cuisine!!!! There are a LOT better foods to eat in Scotland than Haggis!!!!!!

[not2late]

Actually, if you're in Maintenance or Pre-Maintenance, you might be able to incorporate haggis as part of the meal because traditionally it uses whoe oat groats, not the pre-steamed roll oat things they have in boxes here.

[NulloModo]

Re: haggis?????

ensive does anyone know if you are allowed haggis on the atkins diet?? also what about gravy? ensive

you are enhancing the myth about Scots cuisine!!!! There are a LOT better foods to eat in Scotland than Haggis!!!!!!

I dunno, Haggis is pretty darn good. Especially when followed up by some clotted cream with fresh berries on top.

[kittymieow]

ensive thanks for all your advice about haggis, i love haggis and maybe there are better foods to eat in scotland but if we all ate the same foods it would be one **** of a boring world!!!!! :sarcasm

[NulloModo]

The safest way would probably be to simply make your own haggis, and leave the oats out. If you decide to to this, please document the procedure for us, I would sure love to learn how to cook it myself.

[Heidi3]

ensive thanks for all your advice about haggis, i love haggis and maybe there are better foods to eat in scotland but if we all ate the same foods it would be one **** of a boring world!!!!! :sarcasm

I did not mean it as offensive I was teasing.... ..but you have wonderful cuisine I can attest!!! enjoy your haggis when you can and you are right it would be a very boring world if we all ate the same thing!!!....heck I eat a lot of things people curl their lips over!!!!....

[kittymieow]

haggis

:wave hi again, i will ask the chef at my work how to make haggis and i will post whatever i find out. hopefully it wont be too hard!!!

[Richt]

Re: haggis

:wave hi again, i will ask the chef at my work how to make haggis and i will post whatever i find out. hopefully it wont be too hard!!!

Please do, as I would be interested in making some aswell.

Rich

[Naja]

I make haggis thusly.

Slaughter one sheep. Thoroughly clean the stomach under running water with a scrub brush, then scrub with a paste of salt and vegetable oil. Rinse the paste off. Boil the stomach in several changes of water for half hour or so - no worries, it won't be anywhere near done at this stage. This is just part of the cleaning process. Boil the scrub brush also to sterilize it. Drain the stomach and dry it.

Prepare the heart, lungs and liver for cooking - split and rinse the heart, dissect off the gallbladder from the liver and tough connective tissue from lungs. Put these meats through a coarse grinder. Add about a pound of finely chopped muscle meat (shank, etc) to the results. Split, rinse and soak the kidneys in lightly salted water for a few hours, then drain, rinse and chop coarsely. The kidneys from an older male animal should normally be discarded - take a good whiff when you're done with the soaking and rinsing to determine whether they're salvageable or not. Sometimes they're not.

Season the meat mixture well with salt, pepper and other spices to taste. Chopped onion and garlic is a good addition here. For a low carb version, I'd add Ketatoes, soy flour, Atkins bake mix or wheat protein isolate to stiffen up the mix a bit - it will be quite soggy. The traditional version calls for mixing in steel cut oats or oat groats. Don't even THINK about using rolled oats; they turn to mush.

Stuff the mixture into the stomach and sew the stomach shut with cooking string (plain cotton twine). Wrap in a pudding cloth (cheesecloth will do) and steam in a pudding basin for four hours or until the stomach is nice and tender.

I really, really like this dish. The way I prefer it, slaughtering the sheep first is an absolute requirement because you cannot purchase lung meat here in the US.

[MotherOfGizmo]

Ewwwwwwwww! :vomit Sorry guys, but I don't believe I will ever be hungry enough to choke that down. :nono

[kittymieow]

haggis

:yikes thanks for the haggis recipe but i think i will be able to do atkins without it after reading that!!!!! if i find a simpler way to make it i will let you all know.

[TiredOfBeingFat]

OMG I think I am gunna HURL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit :vomit

I mean I eat some stuff that makes others sick - sushi, pork rinds, etc, but really people.................wow...........that is just terrible sounding. Some things were meant to be left behind when it was no longer needed to use the last bit of an animal because you were poor........THIS IS ONE OF THEM!!!!! And yes, I know what hotdogs are made up and it pales in comparisonto Haggis.



Dave

[Naja]

I mean I eat some stuff that makes others sick - sushi, pork rinds, etc, but really people.................wow...........that is just terrible sounding. Some things were meant to be left behind when it was no longer needed to use the last bit of an animal because you were poor........THIS IS ONE OF THEM!!!!! And yes, I know what hotdogs are made up and it pales in comparisonto Haggis.

I don't use every bit of an animal whose life I take because I am poor. It's not about money. The whole sheep might have cost me $75, but that isn't relevant. The fact that I am taking a life in order to eat means that every part is priceless. It cost an animal's life.

Encouraging the waste of life so that you can eat only the most delicate bits of the carcass is not a sustainable or ethical harvest. People look with great contempt on ancient Romans who made banquets from flamingo tongues, slaughtering hundreds of the pretty, inoffensive birds to make a single dish. But North American dietary habits are not much different in terms of the impact they have on the environment.

I learned to make full use of every edible part of an animal because of the respect I have for life and the regard I have for the ecosystem. There is nothing wrong with organ meats at all; they have wonderful and unique tastes and textures that a good cook can really appreciate. They are scorned by people in North America for cultural reasons, not any valid culinary reasons. Properly prepared organ meats are delicious if you can eat them without your cultural brainwashing getting in the way.

When I have a full harvest from an animal in front of me, I don't think, "Oh no, I have to eat up this nasty organ meat to avoid waste." Heck no. I think, "Darn it, I only have enough for one batch of delicious country pate or one haggis, and I have to choose which to make this time." It's a tough choice, and either one will disappear a lot more quickly than the steaks.

I take real exception to the idea that we are "meant" to be wasteful and profligate with life. It is better to be consciously aware of the ethical consequences of your dietary choices. If you don't choose to eat organ meat, that's fine, even though I personally think you're missing out on some good stuff. Everyone has their preferences. But if you want to tell other people that they shouldn't eat them, you should fully understand the moral and ethical consequences of encouraging those dietary prejudices in our society.