Day 10 - Few problems.

[Ted221]

Okay Day 10 i lost 12 lbs i gained 2 lbs 3 days ago and haven't lost anything since.

I haven't gotten the energy and my mood has gotten bitter and snappy instead of improving.

I Haven't cheated, on day 3 i might have ate something wings i think that could have had sugar in the sauce ( 4 wings), Other then that its been meat eggs and veggies.
I have cut the splenda and the cheese since the weight loss has stopped.

I thought i read in the book that my mood and energy levels would change.
Is this normal, thanks.

[Georgiana]

Re: Day 10 - Few problems.

I don't remember... did you post your menus before? If you didn't, could you do it so we can see if there's anything wrong there?

But regardless of this, you should not weigh daily. It is better to weigh only at the end of Induction, so that you don't get upset by normal fluctuations in weight. Your bad mood could be just a consequence of the disappointment caused by the number on the scale. So put the metal/glass monster away and wait until day 15 to weigh. Take body measurements too, because the scale is not saying the whole truth.

[momtomany1]

Re: Day 10 - Few problems.

Other then that its been meat eggs and veggies.


Where are your veggie carbs, your minimum 3 cups of veggies a day? You should be eating a few veggie carbs, optimally a few with each meal. You are shortchanging yourself if you are not, and it could have everything to do with how poorly you feel.

[Ted221]

Re: Day 10 - Few problems.

Oh MAN !
I went thru every thing i have been eating rereading the labels double checking.

Almost Everyday for the past 10 days i have had atleast 1 or 2 tbs of Hidden valley ranch !! Sugar !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know why or how i thought this ranch was okay i could have sworn someone had told me hidden valley was the only safe one because they didn't add anything.
Either way i messed up and should have double checked!

So 10 days i have been having sugar !
Is it safe to restart the 14 days over again the next day ?

Thanks
take care

[momtomany1]

Re: Day 10 - Few problems.

Induction can be done safely up to a year, if one is taking one's supplements as directed in the book, and eating their vegetables each day as directed in the book. So yes, do another induction if you like, that won't hurt a thing, and make sure to model your menus as the book does the induction menus. The sample menu on page 133 shows avocado and tomato with breakfast, spinach and other greens and veggies with lunch and kale with dinner. Veggie carbs. Less than 20 but very important! much success to you

[FwL]

Re: Day 10 - Few problems.

Okay Day 10 i lost 12 lbs i gained 2 lbs 3 days ago and haven't lost anything since.

I haven't gotten the energy and my mood has gotten bitter and snappy instead of improving.

I Haven't cheated, on day 3 i might have ate something wings i think that could have had sugar in the sauce ( 4 wings), Other then that its been meat eggs and veggies.
I have cut the splenda and the cheese since the weight loss has stopped.

I thought i read in the book that my mood and energy levels would change.
Is this normal, thanks.

I can't help with the weight gain, but wanted to let you know that I too get gruff and edgy on this diet.

I've done low carb twice before, and the same thing happened. In fact, this time around, I had a talk with my wife and asked her in advance to try and understand that I'm liable to turn into a jerk without notice and to try and remember that it's chemical and not something she should take to heart.

It's been a while since I last did this WOE, so I can't remember if the irritability smooths out after a while. I sure hope so.

[Georgiana]

Re: Day 10 - Few problems.

So 10 days i have been having sugar !
Is it safe to restart the 14 days over again the next day ?

It is safe but not necessary, especially since the amount of sugar in the dressing does not seem to have affected you badly. Don't expect a loss every day and don't be surprised if you gain some weight at times, because it's perfectly normal and it doesn't mean it's certainly because of the dressing. Do yourself a favor and stop weighing daily if these fluctuations bother you.

If you restart Induction, what you will actually be doing is extended Induction. Extended Induction may be beneficial for folks who have a lot to lose or have a high degree of metabolic resistance, but the experience on this board tells us that most others stall if they do not move to OWL. I don't know your stats though.

Whatever you decide to do, keep in mind that you will probably not experience the weight loss you have seen until now during a second bout of Induction. This is because the glycogen (and water stored with it) are gone by now, so no wooshie will happen.

It's not the last time you'll discover that something you ate had sugar in it. When this happens, the way to act, in my opinion, is to drop that particular food and move on from where you were.

[Ted221]

Re: Day 10 - Few problems.

Okay 5 days have passed and no gain no loss.
Is this normal on induction ?

[Georgiana]

Re: Day 10 - Few problems.

Yes, it's normal. I suppose this is the end of your 14-day Induction, right? How many pounds did you lose, is it 10? You should use the chart on page 158 of DANDR to approximate your degree of metabolic resistance. Then read Chapter 13 and decide what you will do next -- move to OWL or extend the Induction phase.

[Ted221]

Re: Day 10 - Few problems.

I Have 3 more days.
8 is high and 12 is average.
So i have an above average MR ?

235 when started.
225 now.
To start i had 90lb goal at this point 80lbs to go.
I might stick with induction for a while longer.
Im also going to grab some Lipolysis test strips from the drug store today.

[Georgiana]

Re: Day 10 - Few problems.

You still have three days and you might lose more... but if you stay with 10 lbs lost, then yes, your metabolic resistance is right in the middle of the high-average range. However, since you ate sauce (w/ the chicken wings) that probably had some sugar and the dressing, your results could be skewed.

Can you post a few menus, including quantities for absolutely everything? There might be things that can be tweaked.

Are you exercising? How much water are you drinking every day?

[Ted221]

Re: Day 10 - Few problems.

I have only been on the treadmill like 2 days in the past 5 days running 6mph for 15 minutes.
I usually walk 3 miles everyday and 5 times up and down park steps, but i scalded the side of my legs if your overweight im sure you know what im talking about.

Then when that went away i got back on and did something to the top pf my ankle.
Im not much of a runner but i wanted to really start sweating and get my heart rate going.
Push ups and Crunches which i don't normally do, but since i wasn't doing my normal walking.


Anyways today i will be back at the park like normal , 3 miles walking and 5 times up & Down the steps.

I dont have a detailed menu i havent started writing it down, just counting the carbs.

1 cup of brocilli and cauliflower with 2 eggs and 3 sausage links for Break.

1/4 a cup of lettuce 2 hamburgers 4 pickles 2 tomato slices 1 slice of onion and 2 slices of cheese. For lunch
( about 1 hour later im hungry like this did nothing at all for my appetite.)

For dinner its a Steak , 12 Jalepenos , 2 tbs ranch , 1 cup brocilli and cauliflower.

Throughout the day i probably eat 4 to 7 pickled eggs when i feel hungry or crave taste. I was eating pork grinds when i had munchies or hunger but have cut back becasue of the suggestions about the high sodium.

The only variation , is for instance today i had a steak and 2 eggs for breakfast.
The steaks im eating are from 6 - 8 oz.

If there is any variation to what i eat its with or without the veggies.

I wake up at 8am and go to bed at 12 am , late night snack is some deli meat like turkey a peice of cheese and a pickled egg.

Last night i needed a different taste besides normal turkey so it was pepperoni pepperjack cheese( pepperoni is a first since i have been on induction) and 2 pickled eggs.

This is pretty much all i eat everyday steak, eggs, sometimes up to 4 slices of cheese, some deli turkey (no hidden sugar), so far i have had buffalo wings twice with a 2g carb dressing with no sugar 12 wings each time.
A third time i ate 4 wings my wife brought home and they had sugar this was like day 3 or 4 i think.

Other then those two times for dinner and that 3rd time snack she brought of the wings , i only eat steak eggs and cheese. Some deli sliced turkey , mulitple pickled eggs and i was eating a bag of pork grinds a day 3 servings. Which i noticed the barb-q flavored had sugar


I cant give you exact amounts other then what i have shown above.
Sugar has snuck its way into my induction multiple times now and its very upsetting.

I dont know how i could start this induction over because i have already lost weight so another 14 days might not be accurate?

I was thinking about doing 14 days of nothing but steak and eggs.
And slowly adding veggies.
This way i know that my steak and my eggs are sugar free and dont have suprises anymore.


P.S. If did the Steak and eggs , does anyone have a salsa recipe that is super carb firendly ?

[JulieB]

Re: Day 10 - Few problems.

Ted, are you having cauliflower/broccoli for both breakfast & dinner? These are on the "other" veggies list and are restricted to 1 cup a day. The tomato and onion are also on that list, so the broccoli, cauliflower, tomato & onion should total less than 1 cup per day.

Make sure you are counting the carbs on EVERYTHING you put in your mouth

[Georgiana]

Re: Day 10 - Few problems.

1 cup of brocilli and cauliflower with 2 eggs and 3 sausage links for Break.

1/4 a cup of lettuce 2 hamburgers 4 pickles 2 tomato slices 1 slice of onion and 2 slices of cheese. For lunch
( about 1 hour later im hungry like this did nothing at all for my appetite.)

For dinner its a Steak , 12 Jalepenos , 2 tbs ranch , 1 cup brocilli and cauliflower.

You should be eating 3 cups of vegetables per day. Maximum 1 cup of these can come from the "Other Vegetables" list, but the rest should be "Salad Vegetables". Broccoli, cauliflower, tomatoes and onion are on the "Other Vegetables" list, so you are overeating the veggies in that group.

Throughout the day i probably eat 4 to 7 pickled eggs when i feel hungry or crave taste. I was eating pork grinds when i had munchies or hunger but have cut back becasue of the suggestions about the high sodium.

Are the pickled eggs homemade or are they store-bought? If it's the latter, check the ingredients.

If there is any variation to what i eat its with or without the veggies.

Veggies are required during all phases of Atkins. During Induction, you have to eat 3 cups per day. Furthermore, over half of your net carbs should come from vegetables.

Sugar has snuck its way into my induction multiple times now and its very upsetting.

I dont know how i could start this induction over because i have already lost weight so another 14 days might not be accurate?

No, your degree of metabolic resistance will be skewed anyway, but this should not stop you from moving to OWL or extending your Induction, whatever you decide to do. You will be able to determine your CCLL in OWL even without knowing your metabolic resistance, and that's what matters.

I was thinking about doing 14 days of nothing but steak and eggs. And slowly adding veggies.

This way i know that my steak and my eggs are sugar free and dont have suprises anymore.

That's a very bad idea and it is not what Dr. Atkins recommended in DANDR. Vegetables are sugar free (i.e. no added sugar) and you shouldn't have surprises with them. The foods that may cause you problems are sauces and processed foods in general.

Considering you've lost 10 lbs in 11 days, even without doing everything correctly, I believe your results are really good. Re-read the Rules of Induction and keep an open eye for hidden sugars. And stop weighing yourself daily -- it's obviously not doing you any good.

P.S. If did the Steak and eggs , does anyone have a salsa recipe that is super carb firendly ?

You can have salsa and eat your veggies too.

Make a Google search on "low carb salsa recipe" and you'll find what you need. Here's one I found: Salsa II - All Recipes

[Ted221]

Re: Day 10 - Few problems.

Okay, im going to try and do another 10 days of induction with these corrections and hopefully no hidden sugars and compare my first 10 days to my 2nd set of 10 days.

Also i bought the strips and the strip turned to highest purple on the series of colors.