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  • #16
    Re: Confused...about to throw in the towel..please help

    Fluffy, relax!!! You're doing fine with FitDay. My first reply was in response to your original post where you wrote that you had a 1/2 cup of cream and 2 celery stalks.

    Lots of us put in goofy numbers like the 3 cups of vinegar and then when you look it over and start checking on why things are so high (or way too low) then you spot those errors.

    You just started using FitDay. Like anything else, there is a learning curve. You're doing fine.
    Female, 54, 5'6" START DATE: 22JUL09




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    • #17
      Re: Confused...about to throw in the towel..please help

      >>For the love of god I am getting so frustrated.>>

      I know!

      There's a learning curve to Fitday ... just as there is with any other counting site.

      >>i didn't eat 3 cups of vinager! I had 3 tbs spoons,>>

      Ok ... then you can edit the entry.

      The drop down menu for serving size should have Tbs.

      Have you tried doing it by hand?

      >>I had .3 of a cup of cream so I am not sure how that is over>>

      The limit is 2-3 Tbs. You also wrote you had 1/2 a cup ... and now it's .3 of a cup ... you need to be accurate. 3/10ths is not the same as 1/2.

      >>yes the eggs were raw. I picked the thing that said eggs!>>

      As I wrote, you should use the entry, "eggs, whole, raw".

      >>Broccoli was both florets and stems and measured raw.>>

      Then you should make your Fitday entry raw broccoli.

      >> how about someone giving me an example as to what the (*&^ I should be eating because I a two seconds for saying F*** it~!>>

      You should eat from the List of Acceptable Foods for Induction. It's not that you're not eating correctly ... you're just not putting it to Fitday correctly.

      >> Is there another tracking site I can use>>

      You can try All Things Food and Diet - FatSecret I suspect you'll be just as frustrated there until you get past the learning curve!

      When I was just starting, I used the carb counter in the back of DANDR ... and then I used the Dr. Atkins New Carbohydrate Gram counter book. Kept a paper journal for a long time ...

      Doing it by hand taught me what the correct counts were ... so that I could see if there was a problem with something I did with Fitday.
      J.

      "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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      • #18
        Re: Confused...about to throw in the towel..please help

        Georgina told you "what" wasn't allowed?

        Did you check what she said against the Induction food list?
        J.

        "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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        • #19
          Re: Confused...about to throw in the towel..please help

          Alright so if I am not eatting correctly then why I am not loosing any weight or in the next mode Kentis or whatever its called?

          Also I know about the list I have 5 copies of it!!! and following it or so I thought!!

          I have one copy on my fridge, one at my desk at work, one in the car, one in my purse and the one in the book I have that is in my living room. I read it daily when I plan my food each night and when i am shopping. I write down everything and have it on paper but everyone is so hard pressed about fit day!

          She told me half and half is a no no cause its half milk.

          So nevermind fitday..why is this not working, my question was what am I doing wrong - BESIDES ENTERING IT IN FITDAY WRONG!
          I am not fat, I am fluffy....

          Weight - 167 LBS
          Current - 161 LBS
          Goal - 117 LBS to 110 LBS

          Restart Nov. 2/2009
          I need all the help and support I can get, Please feel free to message me.

          mini goal - 157 LBS
          mini goal - 147 LBS
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          • #20
            Re: Confused...about to throw in the towel..please help

            >>so if I am not eatting correctly then why I am not loosing any weight>>

            Who said you weren't eating correctly?

            You're not entering what you are eating in to Fitday correctly. Big different.

            You lost 1.5 pounds in 5 days ... how is that "not losing".

            How do you know you're not in ketosis?
            J.

            "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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            • #21
              Re: Confused...about to throw in the towel..please help

              I'm agreeing with atkinsgal here.

              So if you can't get the hang of Fitday, just don't use it. Its silly to use something that aggrevates you, so try using a journal of your own.

              According to your signature you've lost 2 pounds in 5 days. Thats nothing to sniff at considering your current weight. Before throwing in the towel you should try to get through the two weeks of induction. It takes a few days for your body to enter ketosis. The first week or week and a half is really just your body dropping the excess water weight. It helps to drink tons of water which (surprisingly) helps get rid of even more water from your body.

              If you want to track your ketosis you should get the KetoStix at your local pharmacy. If you are keeping your carbs down to around the 20-25 gram level you should get into ketosis within 2-3 days (just from personal experience).

              Also, and I know some will yell about this, but try not to get so bogged down in the tiny details that you feel miserable. Do your best, watch what you are eating, eat only foods on the list, drink lots of water and take lots of deep breathes. What is the point of changing your WOE if you will be miserable through it? The first two weeks are the hardest, its the time when you are relearning how to eat, when you are getting your body used to this new way of burning fat and making energy. It will happen but you have to allow your body time to adjust on its own schedule. After all, tomorrow you could wake up and have dropped another 2-3 pounds..the body is an amazing and frustrating thing.
              Bellajgw aka Jacqui
              242/223/140


              Mini-Goal 1: 229 MET on 02/08/10
              Mini-Goal 2: 219
              Mini-Goal 3: 209
              Mini-Goal 4: 199
              Mini-Goal 5: 189
              Mini-Goal 6: 179
              Mini-Goal 7: 169
              Mini-Goal 8: 159

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              • #22
                Re: Confused...about to throw in the towel..please help

                I was down 1.5 by tuesday morning and nothing since.

                How do I know..
                Ketone breath, which imparts a sweetish smell, does not cause bad breath so much as a different breath odor. In any case, this condition is likely to last only as long as you are doing the Induction phase of Atkins. Try drinking more water, and remember this is a great sign you are changing your metabolism, burning fat and just your body letting you know!!!
                Lipolysis, the process during which your body primarily burns fat as fuel rather than glucose, causes ketosis, which in turn generates ketones, the by-products of fat breakdown. During ketosis, ketones are released in your breath and your urine.
                As long as you drink enough water, the bad breath caused by ketosis usually lasts only a few weeks.

                NOPE don't have that.


                I am trying to make sure that I am eating exactly as I should, this whole fitday thing is really frustrating. I track it on paper and that seems to work so I am just doing it that way until I get the hang of this fit day thing. I was 167 lbs yes but I started cutting things out of what I was eating on Friday before my actual start date. I woke up sunday and was 166 lbs. so if you really want to be spot on, I have lost .5 lbs since sunday when I actually started cause I had a pasta dinner saturday night. I want to do my best and I am getting frustrated yes but this appears to be more with fitday then anything else.
                The Atkins Diet is a Ketogenic Diet and once your body's two-day supply of glycogen (stored glucose) is gone and your body starts to burn fat, the natural appetite suppressent side effect of lipolysis kicks!!! Believe it or not you may "forget" to eat a meal. But DO NOT do that. Never go six waking hours without eating

                Nope don't have that...I am hungry!!

                Increased Energy!!!! Once you have hit ketosis, usually on the third or fourth day you may get a huge burst in energy!!!!! You may also experience a slight light headedness with this and that is a point to remind you to eat your veggies as per the list of acceptable foods and to drink your water!

                NOPE don't have that either!!

                Thirst This WOE is a natural diuretic. And what a great thing. Obviously, drinking lots of water is essential (see FAQ on water)

                Nope mind you I drink 3 litres a day
                I am not fat, I am fluffy....

                Weight - 167 LBS
                Current - 161 LBS
                Goal - 117 LBS to 110 LBS

                Restart Nov. 2/2009
                I need all the help and support I can get, Please feel free to message me.

                mini goal - 157 LBS
                mini goal - 147 LBS
                mini goal - 130 LBS

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                • #23
                  Re: Confused...about to throw in the towel..please help

                  >> was down 1.5 by tuesday morning and nothing since.>>

                  Ok. That happens.

                  Not everyone has bad breath. Not everyone spills excess ketones. That's why this being "in ketosis" can be such a "problem". You can be in "it" and simply not know. And ... not everyone is "in it" even after 5 days.

                  >>I am hungry!!>>

                  Then eat.

                  I didn't experience the appetite suppressant until later on.
                  J.

                  "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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                  • #24
                    Re: Confused...about to throw in the towel..please help

                    >>f you can't get the hang of Fitday,>>

                    It also takes more than one try to "get the hang" of Fitday. Don't give up on it (or Atkins) because you didn't have 100% success the first moment.
                    J.

                    "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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                    • #25
                      Re: Confused...about to throw in the towel..please help

                      I can't eat!! cause I am already at my carb limit and haven't had dinner yet!! sniff sniff!!
                      I am not fat, I am fluffy....

                      Weight - 167 LBS
                      Current - 161 LBS
                      Goal - 117 LBS to 110 LBS

                      Restart Nov. 2/2009
                      I need all the help and support I can get, Please feel free to message me.

                      mini goal - 157 LBS
                      mini goal - 147 LBS
                      mini goal - 130 LBS

                      Comment


                      • #26
                        Re: Confused...about to throw in the towel..please help

                        I have been trying to get the hang of it since last week! Computer dense here lol
                        I am not fat, I am fluffy....

                        Weight - 167 LBS
                        Current - 161 LBS
                        Goal - 117 LBS to 110 LBS

                        Restart Nov. 2/2009
                        I need all the help and support I can get, Please feel free to message me.

                        mini goal - 157 LBS
                        mini goal - 147 LBS
                        mini goal - 130 LBS

                        Comment


                        • #27
                          Re: Confused...about to throw in the towel..please help

                          You are not at your carb limit!

                          Take a deep breath ... go back and read my suggestions on how to correct your Fitday.

                          Then ... SUBTRACT the fiber ... and you'll see that you can eat.
                          J.

                          "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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                          • #28
                            Re: Confused...about to throw in the towel..please help

                            Fluffy, go back into Fitday and update the areas that people have suggested and see what your new carb amount says:

                            Raw Eggs for eggs instead of the omlette option
                            3 tbsp of vinegar instead of the 3 cups
                            etc, etc

                            You may find that you have some more carb grams to play with after all. If you go a little over 20 g. its not going to throw you out of ketosis...the more important thing at this moment is that you eat something for dinner. Just make sure it is very low in carbs, like tuna with mayo and spices or something similar.

                            Fitday is very helpful in that it will show you, once you get the hang of it if you continue to use it, where you go over, where you could be more careful, etc. I know for myself I was getting salads for lunch and because I was adding in a little sliced onion here and a little shredded carrot there I'd be burning through my carbs in no time. So I cut out the onions and carrots and I had more carbs to eat at dinner.

                            Its a delicate balance but can be done, you just have to give yourself time to have those "oops" days and figure out how to better the next day.
                            Bellajgw aka Jacqui
                            242/223/140


                            Mini-Goal 1: 229 MET on 02/08/10
                            Mini-Goal 2: 219
                            Mini-Goal 3: 209
                            Mini-Goal 4: 199
                            Mini-Goal 5: 189
                            Mini-Goal 6: 179
                            Mini-Goal 7: 169
                            Mini-Goal 8: 159

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                            • #29
                              Re: Confused...about to throw in the towel..please help

                              Originally posted by I am not fat, I am fluffy View Post
                              I can't eat!! cause I am already at my carb limit and haven't had dinner yet!! sniff sniff!!
                              You're not at your carb limit. According to your fitday (even with the 3 cups of vinegar LOL) you are currently at 14.8g NET carbs. If you correct the vinegar entry it will be even less: 14.8g - 1.9g vinegar carbs = 12.9g NET carbs so far today. Sooooo...go have dinner!
                              Female, 54, 5'6" START DATE: 22JUL09




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                              • #30
                                Re: Confused...about to throw in the towel..please help

                                Originally posted by I am not fat, I am fluffy View Post
                                See now Georgina told me it was not allowed!!
                                Originally posted by atkinsgal08 View Post
                                Georgina told you "what" wasn't allowed?

                                Did you check what she said against the Induction food list?
                                Atkinsgal is right saying that, regardless of what anyone tells you, you should always check things against the book.

                                You might find the link below and the quote from DANDR 2002 (from the Acceptable Foods List) useful.
                                What is half and half?
                                Beverages
                                clear broth/bouillon (not all brands; read the label)
                                club soda
                                cream (heavy or light); limit to two to three tablespoons a day; note carbohydrate content
                                decaffeinated coffee or tea
                                diet soda made with sucralose (Splenda)
                                essence-flavored seltzer (must say "no calories" and must not contain aspartame)
                                herb tea (without barley or any fruit sugar added)
                                lemon juice or lime juice (not that each contains 2.8 grams carbohydrate per ounce); limit to two to three tablespoons
                                mineral water
                                spring water
                                water
                                Also check the book.
                                "Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an oyster."

                                -- Theodore Roosevelt

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