Failure to Ketosis

[Suikakuju]

So I'm a rookie to this Atkins thing. I have been religiously sticking to lettuce, celerey, asparagus, broccoli, steak and chicken. I'm on day 6, and was told i should have started losing weight by now. I've read how ridiculous the ketostix can be but had someone tell me to buy them just today before i read this forum. It was completely negative, but thats possiblly wrong. To say less, last night i was very excited to jump on my wii fitness board only to find out i have not gained not lost a pound. and the only difference i can tell is i feel weaker in my joint areas. I'd love somei insight from the veterans


Thanks
Dan

[liv]

Re: Failure to Ketosis

Can you tell us what you eat for each meal with quantities
And what you drink
How much do you have to lose
Did you come off another diet and jump to this one
Do you exercise

Welcome to ADBB

[cskristin]

Re: Failure to Ketosis

Do you have, and have you read, the 2002 edition of Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution (DANDR) book?
Are you drinking at least 64 ounces of water a day?
Are you exercising?

[Suikakuju]

Re: Failure to Ketosis

Okay fair enough, lets start with a background. i'm 5'4 (used to be 5'6 not sure how that works) Anyways, straight to the plot, I got up to 235lbs, which at my height isn't good. a year ago I started going to the gym regularly i ran 5 miles a day for 9 months and managed to get down to 185lbs, at that point i started building muscle, and went up to 195lbs. while still runing moderately. I got pretty sick for about a month in which time i found myself back at 210lbs, when i got back to the gym I quickly got back downto 200lbs by running and continuing to lift but not to build muscle at this poing. with all the weight i lost and even though i have enormous abs i still have way more luggage than i'm used to. I am comfortable around 150lbs, and thats not ripped but its good by me. I had a friend who does atkins, or a modification, not sure, and i've seen her lose loads of weight over the past couple years. I decided to research Atkins, and found it seemed pleanty safe. None the less last monday i decided to start, i screwed up eating imitation crab meat which turned out to be loaded with sugars, so I restarted on tuesday. I have had salad, with 2TBS of bluecheese dressing. 2 times, I have had 5 ounces of cully cooked steak 3 times, I have had buffalo burger with lettuce as bun 2 times, i have had baed chicken breast 2 times. broccoli every day, celery every day, asparagus 2 times. I'm feeling somewhat discouraged but know this works so I want to get it right.

[Suikakuju]

Re: Failure to Ketosis

Do you have, and have you read, the 2002 edition of Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution (DANDR) book?
Are you drinking at least 64 ounces of water a day?
Are you exercising?

as for the water that is something i have not been doing good on, i just started drowning myself today. and no, i have no books, i'm going soley off of hearsay ....

another mistake i've been making is drinking 2 talking rains a day (4/6 days). they2 grans carbs and are sweetened by splenda. but i saw no sweetners on here. oops!

[liv]

Re: Failure to Ketosis

I don't get what you are eating. Give specifics with quantities and how many carbs you are having. We need this to help you. Thanks for all the background.
Breakfast?
LUnch?
Supper?

have you had a check up lately

[Suikakuju]

Re: Failure to Ketosis

I don't get what you are eating. Give specifics with quantities and how many carbs you are having. We need this to help you. Thanks for all the background. have you had a check up lately

Tuesday> Drinks included black Coffee (not decaf) 0 carbs, Diet Dr. Pepper 0 Carbs, Talking Rain Ice: Kiwi Strawberry 2g carbs
Breakfast: 6 ounces dry roasted peanuts. 3g net carbs.
Lunch: 6 ounces dry roasted peanuts. 3g net carbs.
Dinner: Large romaine salad with 1/2 cup shredded mozarrella, raw broccoli flourettes, Chunks from 4oz surloin steak, 2 TBS Maries Blue Cheese dressing. 10g net carbs.

Wednesday> Drinks included black Coffee (not decaf) 0 carbs, Talking Rain Ice: Kiwi Strawberry (x2) 4g carbs
Breakfast: Hard boiled egg (x3) 6g carbs
Lunch: Hard boiled egg (x3) 6g carbs
Dinner: Buffalo Burger with Romaine lettuce as bun, swiss cheese, and 1/2 TBS Blue Cheese (x2) 4 carbs

Thursday> Drinks included black Coffee (not decaf) 0 carbs, Talking Rain Ice: Kiwi Strawberry (x2) 4g carbs
Breakfast: Nothing
Lunch: String Cheese, Celery Stick. 1g carbs
Dinner: Asparagus spear (x10=2.4g net) Broccoli flourett (x5=5g net) 3 slices medium Cheddar Cheese. 7.4g net carbs

Friday: Drinks included black Coffee (not decaf) 0 carbs, Talking Rain Ice: Kiwi Strawberry (x2) 4g carbs
Breakfast: 6 ounces dry roasted peanuts. 3g net carbs.
Lunch: 1 slices medium Cheddar Cheese, 1 slices Swiss Cheese. 0 carbs
Dinner: 1 Pack Roast healty habits roast beef, 5 broccoli flourettes with 3 TBS Maries Blue Cheese. 5g carbs.

Saturday> Talking Rain Ice: Kiwi Strawberry, 32oz water. 2g carbs
Brunch: Sausage and sharp cheddar ommlette 3g carbs
Dinner: Large romaine salad with 1/2 cup shredded mozarrella, raw broccoli flourettes, Chunks from 4oz surloin steak, 2 TBS Maries Blue Cheese dressing. 10g net carbs.

Sunday> Talking Rain Ice: Kiwi Strawberry, 32oz water. 2g carbs
Brunch: Bacon and Sharp Cheddar Ommlette 3g carbs
Dinner: 2 slice Pastrami, 1 string cheese, 4 sausge links, 1/4 cup cooked spinach. 5g carbs

Today: Black Coffee (not decaf) 3/4 Talking Rain Ice: Kiwi Strawberry [threw away], 48oz water. 1.5g carbs
Breakfast: 8 roasted almonds 2g Carbs
Lunch: 3 celery sticks 0.5 carbs
Dinner: TBD

[Suikakuju]

Re: Failure to Ketosis

hmm. there is an atkins carb counter book? tartar sauce!

[atkinsgal08]

Re: Failure to Ketosis

>>i have no books, i'm going soley off of hearsay>>

As Dr. Phil would say, "how's that workin'?"

Nuts aren't allowed on Induction.

Coffee has carbs.

Not sure how you're counting your carbs ... but many of them seem very inaccurate.

For example, the USDA www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/ has 1 medium celery stalk at .59 net carbs so your 3 would have to be more than 0.5.

A large egg is 0.39 net carbs, so 3 hard boiled eggs would be 1.17 net carbs, not the 6 you list.

Seems to me you need a better carb counter and more solid information on how to "do" Atkins.

For carb counters, there's FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal, All Things Food and Diet - FatSecret and the USDA above.

The book you need is Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution (2002).

And these links should help:

https://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/atkins-low-carb-dieting-faqs/6782-what-rules-induction.html

https://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/atkins-low-carb-dieting-faqs/6781-what-foods-can-eaten-induction.html

[AreYouGonnaEatThat]

Re: Failure to Ketosis

-Nuts are not allowed on induction: check out http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...induction.html for the full list of allowed foods

-Sweeteners are limited to 3 per day. What is the serving size for you Talking Rain beverage? Artificial sweeteners cause a lot of people to stall, you may want to cut out the sweetened drinks, or at the very least use them sparingly.

-You definitely need to drink more water!

-You definitely need to eat more throughout the day. Try to spread out your carbs rather than eating hardly anything during the day and adding them all at night. Make sure the majority of your carbs are coming from vegetables. Seems like you're getting most of yours from nuts and beverages.

-Cheese has carbs and is limited to 3-4oz a day on induction. See that link above for more info.

[atkinsgal08]

Re: Failure to Ketosis

>>there is an atkins carb counter book?>>

It's called "Dr. Atkins New Carbohydrate Gram Counter".

[not2late]

Re: Failure to Ketosis

hi.

You really need to get a hold of the book and read it or at the very least read the FAQ section for the threads on the Induction phase. Going by hearsay will get you into some difficulties. For example, you have been eating peanuts. Peanuts or nuts/seeds like almonds are not allowed during Induction Phase.

Diet Dr. Pepper contains caffeine and aspartame. Caffiene may cause blood sugar instability problems and aspartame may slow or stop weight loss.

Do the Talking Rain beverages you are drinking contain fruit juice? If it does, it isn't allowed during Induction.

Also processed meats sometimes contain carbohydrates.

These things may account for your lack of ketosis/loss of weight or inches.

[Suikakuju]

Re: Failure to Ketosis

Wow! I'm totally messing up! thank you thank you, see i'm glad i joined this forum who would have thought, no more nuts for me. ugh what a pain! well i guess tomorrow is day 1 all over again. I'll have to use these resources. thank you again...

one question though...

as for...

>>i have no books, i'm going soley off of hearsay>>

Coffee has carbs.

...i can not find any sources confirming this. I find every source available online lists black drip coffee has 0 carbs. is there a secret society nutritional facts i need to know about?

[atkinsgal08]

Re: Failure to Ketosis

No, it's not day 1 all over again. That ship has sailed! What you can do is clean up what you're doing and keep moving forward.

>>I find every source available online lists black drip coffee has 0 carbs. is there a secret society nutritional facts i need to know about?>>

One bit of knowledge: all plants have carbs.

Secondly, the information that coffee has 1 net carb per 8 ounces is from Dr. Atkins New Carbohydrate Gram Counter book.

[Suikakuju]

Re: Failure to Ketosis

hi.

You really need to get a hold of the book and read it or at the very least read the FAQ section for the threads on the Induction phase. Going by hearsay will get you into some difficulties. For example, you have been eating peanuts. Peanuts or nuts/seeds like almonds are not allowed during Induction Phase.

Diet Dr. Pepper contains caffeine and aspartame. Caffiene may cause blood sugar instability problems and aspartame may slow or stop weight loss.

Do the Talking Rain beverages you are drinking contain fruit juice? If it does, it isn't allowed during Induction.

Also processed meats sometimes contain carbohydrates.

These things may account for your lack of ketosis/loss of weight or inches.

I've noticed the processed meat thing, i've been getting the ones that say 0, which im aware doesn't necessarily mean thats not 0.XX

The talking rain is killing me, no more of that. 3% juice, well at least there is a obvious reason for my failure.