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  • #16
    it is working because you are burning up your protein stores right now for any metabolic amino acids you need and you are using fats for your energy needs BUT you can do the exact same thing if you just drink water for 3 days it is not a permenant change is what the folk were telling you.

    So now that your fat fast is done what do you plan to do go back to over eating your Atkins again? Doing Atkins correctly means we eat only enough food to satisfy our hunger at the time we are eating and then we stop no matter how much food is on our plates, room in our belly nor carbs in our budget. we stop period and do not eat again until we are hungry or the 6 hour rule applies.

    Lets look at what changes you have made dioing the fat fast.

    you have drastically lowered your caloric intake Dr Atkins said any diet plan that did that would work.

    you are on your current eating if you are using the 1000 cal 90% fast fat fast rapidly depeleting your protein stores andthe first thing your body will do when you stop is replenish them with fluids too hence you didn't get the fat body weight loss you wanted. if you are using the modified fat fast in chapter 20 of your DANDR you are still depleting your protein stores and on a lower cal plan.

    So your 3 days are up and you have lost pounds and lean body mass not what you wanted to do.

    If you were doing your Atkins induction correctly and looking at your menu it appears you wre over eating your protein and foods in general and undereating your fats you would be adding lean body mass and burning off your body storage mass as your body morphed while you didn't get a scale weight change. This morphing would make you smaller in the right places as muscle is denser then fat so it takes up less room. Musckle is also 75% water so it has more weight inch for inche then fat and it alsoburns more cals just being on you about 25 per day per pound of muscle so you could maintain your new higfher metabolism better to keep that goal size longer.

    You need to get back to your induction veggies and move to OWL as you should already be in Premaintenance since you have less then 10 pounds to go!

    Build your house of Atkins on that induction strong foundation with OWL foods tested and accepted for your metabolism timbers on not fat fast straw if you want it to last a life time.


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    started 6/1/02 at 313
    goalie 5/04 at 167 with under 15% body fat ADBB Presidents exercise Challenge


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    • #17
      I'm not sure where you think I was overeating. According to the book , an 1800 - 2000 calorie intake is appropriate. Tack on that I work out 1.5 hours every day. I only ate when I was hungry, and for the most part my fat/protein/carbs ratios haven't fluctuated much since I began.

      I didn't say the fat fast was the way to go, and I'm still not, but it has worked for my purposes, mentally and emotionally. I have looked to it to jumpstart my weight loss, not as a replacement to proper phases of Atkins.

      I appreciate your message, albeit a little condescending and without punctuation that made it difficult to absorb what you were trying to pass on.


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      • #18
        Originally posted by andrrreag
        I'm not sure where you think I was overeating. According to the book , an 1800 - 2000 calorie intake is appropriate. Tack on that I work out 1.5 hours every day. I only ate when I was hungry, and for the most part my fat/protein/carbs ratios haven't fluctuated much since I began.

        I didn't say the fat fast was the way to go, and I'm still not, but it has worked for my purposes, mentally and emotionally. I have looked to it to jumpstart my weight loss, not as a replacement to proper phases of Atkins.

        I appreciate your message, albeit a little condescending and without punctuation that made it difficult to absorb what you were trying to pass on.
        Please remember that all the folks here are genuinely concerned about your health :hug
        I think all that was meant was that your ratios were off a little. That can really screw a lot of people up(me included!) I hope that you decide to go on to the pre-maintenence phase, as you are so close to goal.
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        • #19
          If you now move into OWL you can find out how your body reacts to the various food groups as you gradually add them at a level of 5 carbs each fortnight.
          And by premaintenance you can learn how many carbs you can eat and still lose weight so in lifetime maintenance at goal you can stay at goal for life.
          Dr Atkins wanted us all to stay slim and healthy by not going back to our old eating habits - so give your body its best shot at retraining itself to be able to do just that by following the programme as written :hug
          Wondering how to get 'most' of your net carbs from your induction veggies?
          Take a look at the thread from the latest Veggie Challenge to see how others manage it!



          Check out our Low Carb Recipes website and add to it!!





          F/60 yrs/5ft 5.5" (Though due to collapsing vertebrae I am now only 5'3" - but I refuse to recalculate my BMI )

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          • #20
            Perhaps I've missed something here and others have this information, but was it your sex, height and starting weight?

            Congratulations one your loss, thus far. As far as the fat fast, I'm soooo glad that Joan posted. Her's is similar to the other experiences I've seen in my year plus on this board.

            When you are alone in your head, you are in a bad neighborhood.
            Start:494/current:170
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            • #21
              Originally posted by andrrreag
              I'm not sure where you think I was overeating. According to the book , an 1800 - 2000 calorie intake is appropriate. Tack on that I work out 1.5 hours every day. I only ate when I was hungry, and for the most part my fat/protein/carbs ratios haven't fluctuated much since I began.

              I didn't say the fat fast was the way to go, and I'm still not, but it has worked for my purposes, mentally and emotionally. I have looked to it to jumpstart my weight loss, not as a replacement to proper phases of Atkins.

              I appreciate your message, albeit a little condescending and without punctuation that made it difficult to absorb what you were trying to pass on.
              I used your posts to determine you are over eating your Atkins.

              What book are you saying has a caloric intake level for doing Atkins? DR ATKINS NEW DIET REVOLUTION 3rd edition?
              lets look at your foods


              Normally,

              breakfast: 3 bacon/3 eggs
              lunch: chicken caesar salad (2 cups romaine)
              dinner: medium to large steak with 1 cup romaine salad or veggies
              snack: 3 oz cheeze and/or turkey slices
              I'm not sure what I've learned because I still don't know what I was doing wrong. I was very strict on 2-week induction and stayed on it six more weeks with a caloric intake on average of 1900 and working out. 2 pounds/1 inch in 2 months was just too discouraging for me.
              if you are listening to your hunger and only feeding it there should not be any noraml eating days as it should fluctuate as your hunger changes. Ever see a toddler's eating patterns? they are very picky and only eat a bit for a day or two and then they are hungry and eat so much you wonder where they put it that is listening to their hunger. 3 bacon and 3 eggs isn't listeningto your hunger it is conditioned eating. And it is missing some carb foods as Dr Atkins told us in chapter 8 to spread the carbs out to all meals through out the day too so you under eat your carbs at breakfast and over eat them the rest of the day.

              Now from your posted foods you are low fat for Atkins and too high protein
              as the only high fat meal you posted was the bacon and eggs. Steak and salads will be high protein, not high fat as will chicken ceasar salad. Did you consume some fats you didn't list?
              by the book atkinseer

              started 6/1/02 at 313
              goalie 5/04 at 167 with under 15% body fat ADBB Presidents exercise Challenge


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              • #22
                I'm sensitive and protective about my weight and body. I started at 155, 5'6" and only got down to 153. I won't weigh myself again until tomorrow after I'm done with the fast and then I'll post my new weight.

                Perhaps I was eating too much protein. Not sure. The menu I posted was typical, but not regimented. I also eat chicken with cream sauce, that I put put in my salads, smoked salmon/cream cheese, tuna/mayo, whipped cream in decaf, etc., on other days.

                I thought 3 cups salad and/or 2 salad/1 cup veggies the way I was doing it was fine. I'll have to read chapter 8 again. If I go to a restaurant and have a cobb salad, there are going to be 2 cups of lettuce in that salad. I didn't know that was loading up. I also thought my 1900 calories was ok. I remember reading in the book that taking in 1800-2000 was still good for weight loss on Atkins, as opposed to a low fat diet. I don't claim that to be a calorie level for Atkins, just what I normally take in.

                This is my last day on the fast and then I'm going to go discover OWL. I will know how much weight/inches I actually lost tomorrow.

                Thanks for your help. :yes


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                • #23
                  A really rough estimate for daily calories is your weight plus another zero. So for you at 153 pounds, you can roughly estimate that 1530 calories is average. Again, that number is a rough estimate and you should calculate your BMR to make sure.

                  I'm not sure where you got your 1900 calorie number. Dr. Atkins didn't count calories because he hoped we would learn to only eat what our bodies needed.

                  ~Megs~
                  242/141/160 (130)
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                  • #24
                    Heeeeeeee.... I'm really not counting calories, except that around 1900, or a little above/below are my Fit Day numbers. I otherwise didn't know until I joined that site a couple of weeks ago. Since then, I have wondered if my calories are too high, hence my reason for not losing or something. I was looking at everything, basically. I don't gorge. I eat normal when I'm hungry and at it comes out to about that. Thanks for the info!


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                    • #25
                      Fitday should also be giving you your BMR as well, so you can compare that with the calories you're consuming.

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                      • #26
                        Hello Andrrreag,

                        I would love to try Fat Fast or at least read up on it. Can you tell me where I can find how to do it?










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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by SoniaL
                          Hello Andrrreag,

                          I would love to try Fat Fast or at least read up on it. Can you tell me where I can find how to do it?
                          Sonia, please don't be suckered into doing to fat fast, since you are obviously not metabolically resistant. If you are experiencing slow weight loss or a plateau, I am listing a link to things to try:



                          The information regarding the fat fast is in DANDR in the section for people who are unable to lose weight at all on any diet (at least that is what my copy [1999] says). You should try other methods of getting out of your stall, since the fat fast was not designed for you.

                          I hope I don't appear condescending, but I do not think the fat fast should be used as a "jump start" for people who are able to lose since that was not what it was designed for.

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                          • #28
                            During the initial two weeks of induction, according to Dr. Atkins, we expect to lose 5-10% of our weight. That would indicate that you'd lose 1/2 to 1 pound. Two pounds out of ten pounds to lose is not a slow weight loss. People on the boards who lose more during the two week induction and subsequent weeks, have a lot more to lose than ten pounds, total.

                            If anyone reading this thinks that Atkins is a quick fix for weight loss, go back and read DANDR. Using it as a quick fix may result in you gaining weight rather than losing if you do not follow the plan as it is written.

                            When you are alone in your head, you are in a bad neighborhood.
                            Start:494/current:170
                            Began Atkins 1/4/2004

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                            • #29
                              It appears I started a controversy about the fat fast. 2 pounds in 2 weeks on Atkins is not considered metabollically resistant. 2 pounds in 8 weeks was questionable for me, so I tried it.

                              Here are the results:

                              Prior measurements: 39-32-42
                              Today's measurements: 36-28-38
                              Prior weight: 153
                              Today's weight: 147

                              How do I feel? Ok. I'm tired but otherwise fine. A little worried that I'm not hungry. Had a 3-egg omelette this morning w/spinach, but it was hard to finish.

                              I wouldn't recommend the fast because it's not what Dr. Atkins would have recommended for someone like me. I concede. But my mental well-being is intact, and I'm ready to move on to OWL.

                              If I should gain the weight back, I will know the 3 day fast was not for me. But honestly, if I gained back 3 out of the 6 pounds lost, it will have been worth it (for me). Today I can fit easily into the jeans I've been looking at for 2 months.

                              I don't expect anyone to be happy for me, as this site is very supportive of the correct way to do Atkins, as it should be. I am just sharing my experience for whatever it's worth.


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                              • #30
                                It's common for folks to experience a mini-stall during weeks 3-6 of the diet. Dr. Atkins addressed the problem in one of the Atkins videos and explained the stall as a period or readjustment for the body. Since ketosis/lipolysis is a strong diuretic, your bod spends the next couple of weeks trying to reachieve fluid homostasis.

                                There used to be a sticky/FAQ about this phenomenon. Perhaps if you were aware of it, you wouldn't have pressured yourself into doing the Fat Fast.
                                ~Megs~
                                242/141/160 (130)
                                dress size 26/10/8
                                5'4", Female, May 2, 2003
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