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  • #31
    Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

    you measure the food right from the package for its carb counts. then if you cook it down you know you have X carbs in the pot

    You seem to be too concerned about the concept of 5 net a day if you got 7 net in your 1/2 cup count 2 as part of your old carbs from your induction days and 5 as your new ones. then just add the food to your 3 cups of vegies from induction. If you already had tomatoes with chillies in induction then you know this isn't a new to you food and don't have to worry about any blood sugar spike from the food just the total carb amount for the meal/day.
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    • #32
      Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

      Ah, I gotcha. I was thinking it was some other measurement if you wanted to cook the food since the carbs get higher when the food is cooked.

      The whole thing is kinda like getting on a bike for the first time. I'm trying to figure out how everything works before I get on. lol.
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      • #33
        Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

        Originally posted by meena-beena
        Ah, I gotcha. I was thinking it was some other measurement if you wanted to cook the food since the carbs get higher when the food is cooked.

        The whole thing is kinda like getting on a bike for the first time. I'm trying to figure out how everything works before I get on. lol.
        I'm with you Meena....trying to figure it all out before moving on.......math was never my FAVORITE subject either. Although, I was able to do precalculus but failed fractions...LOL. Ah well.......sucks for me eh.
        Seshena

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        HW - 260 lbs.(3/28/06) SW - 250 lbs.(5/22/06) CW - 225 lbs.(8/7/06) GW - 190lbs.

        ReStarting Induction 7/10/07 - 215 lbs. - size 18/20
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        • #34
          Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

          And by the way...I dont understand this list AT all.
          Seshena

          37 year old Female, 5'4" - Started 5/22/06 - 250lbs - size 22/24
          HW - 260 lbs.(3/28/06) SW - 250 lbs.(5/22/06) CW - 225 lbs.(8/7/06) GW - 190lbs.

          ReStarting Induction 7/10/07 - 215 lbs. - size 18/20
          HW - 260 lbs. (3/28/06) SW - 215 lbs. (7/10/07) GW - 150 lbs.









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          • #35
            Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

            Originally posted by Seshena36
            And by the way...I dont understand this list AT all.
            Loona began this list as a "quick" reference for OWLers for what 5 net carbs of foods were. If you recall, Dr. Atkins has a partial list of 5 net carbs amounts in the book.

            On OWL, we don't count measure foods then figure out their carb count, like we did during Induction. You know: "Today I had 2 cups of lettuce and 1 cup of broccoli, so that's about 4 net carbs. " During OWL, we figure out the carb count, then measure out the amount, in other words, "I going to eat 5 net carbs of broccoli today. So that's about 1 1/2 cups of broccoli."
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            • #36
              Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

              Originally posted by meena-beena
              Ah, I gotcha. I was thinking it was some other measurement if you wanted to cook the food since the carbs get higher when the food is cooked.

              The whole thing is kinda like getting on a bike for the first time. I'm trying to figure out how everything works before I get on. lol.
              coking doesn't increase the carbs of the food but it does change the water content like 1.5 cups of spinach will cook down to a heaping 1/4th cup when the water is removed same carb count for both but volume is much different.
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              • #37
                Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

                Originally posted by not2late
                Loona began this list as a "quick" reference for OWLers for what 5 net carbs of foods were. If you recall, Dr. Atkins has a partial list of 5 net carbs amounts in the book.

                On OWL, we don't count measure foods then figure out their carb count, like we did during Induction. You know: "Today I had 2 cups of lettuce and 1 cup of broccoli, so that's about 4 net carbs. " During OWL, we figure out the carb count, then measure out the amount, in other words, "I going to eat 5 net carbs of broccoli today. So that's about 1 1/2 cups of broccoli."
                ah...gotcha...so i'll have to throw my brain into reverse then.....so she made the list as a "on each rung, this much of this item equals 5 net carbs"...
                good deal..im tracking now...thank you for clearing that up for me
                Seshena

                37 year old Female, 5'4" - Started 5/22/06 - 250lbs - size 22/24
                HW - 260 lbs.(3/28/06) SW - 250 lbs.(5/22/06) CW - 225 lbs.(8/7/06) GW - 190lbs.

                ReStarting Induction 7/10/07 - 215 lbs. - size 18/20
                HW - 260 lbs. (3/28/06) SW - 215 lbs. (7/10/07) GW - 150 lbs.









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                • #38
                  Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

                  Originally posted by 2big4mysize
                  coking doesn't increase the carbs of the food but it does change the water content like 1.5 cups of spinach will cook down to a heaping 1/4th cup when the water is removed same carb count for both but volume is much different.
                  OH! I was wondering why there was a cooked part. So basically they are the same but if you don't want to measure before it's cooked, like if you are making a recipe or something, you can take the measurement after.

                  It's like the little light bulb just went on or something. hahaha. You guys must wanna throw things after a while. lol.
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                  • #39
                    Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

                    I have a question yall Im thinking of moving to OWL next week . What about the ratio ? do i still have to worry about it or can i ommit my ohh so dreaded extra fats such as mayonaise butter oils etc. ?

                    I think i could get really excited about OWL thinking of those 13 cups of lettuce with some ceasar dressing and parmigiano reggiano .. Hmmm ...

                    So does that mean that I can stop loading on the fat to maintain that ratio ??

                    Help

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                    • #40
                      Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

                      not if you are doing Atkins. Atkins is a ketogenic plan we use dietary fats to prime the fat burning so we keep body fat burning. if you lowewr your fat intake and increase your carb intake you will return to sugar burning and then your induction appetite suppression and craving comtrol will go away.

                      you don't really eat 13 cups of lettuce as that should be more then your hunger needs to be satisfied and a bit of a gut buster too. you can add more of those veggies to your salad and use the same amount of dressing as you did before. we don't need to add that much fat a tablespoon of fat goes a long way in the reatio correcting. As you add back the carbs you will be eatring a bit less of your high fat snacks as you can have veggies with dip instead of all the cheese and porkrinds. The rastio will slowly lower to 60 % fats as you move through OWL at goal on Atkins depending on how high your CCLM is you will be eating 45-50% of your daily cals from fats.
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                      • #41
                        Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

                        GOTCHA 2 big4mysize !!! And thanks for ur reply !

                        Well it does make sense about the fat intake on the ketogenic plan . I guess I was just hoping for a relief from the fats .... hahaha

                        I have not really lost any weight yet, (even though i am strictly following rules of induction and ratios , water etc)

                        And ellizellen suggested i move to OWL and try to see how that goes. Im giving Atkins about a whole month ( about 3 weeks induction and another lets say 2 weeks for OWL)

                        And after that If I dont see any kind of weighloss or inches , I am going back to my low calorie all fruits and protein diet. I lost quite a bit of weight on there.

                        But i have not given Up yet even thugh i really gets frustrating sometimes. I mean I could deal with having to stuff myself with that much fat if I were to see ANY kinds of results u know .... But yeah I guess we will just have to sit back and see what happens


                        Ohh and about the 13 cups lettuce I was just jokin LOL I wasnt really planning to eat 13 ... maybe 12 .... hahaha j/k

                        I am going to start adding more veggies back in my diet slowly. 5 net grams ...

                        Ohhh Question : I did have problems with my BM's , i tried the husks and the flaxseed but it didnt work. I read on here about sugar alcohols and I bought some life savers without sugar , they are allowed on south beach for all phases , but i knew not for atkins

                        However I felt so sick this morning that i decided to take one of those 0 carb candies and 20 mintes later VOILA. I was in the bathroom . Relieved.

                        DID i kick My body Ot of ketosis ?

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                        • #42
                          Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

                          you shouldn't have with just that much. Oh and since you went I'm sure some pounds are now in the toilet. We doin't need that much fat eggs are almsot perfect ratio as are many cuts of meat. Did you lock at Dr Atkins serving sizes in his suggested mentus, teaspoons not cups of fat added.

                          Pick some of the higher fiber veggies from the other veggie list and add more flax seeds or husks till you find the amount you need for your body.
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                          • #43
                            Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

                            Do green beans fall in the "legumes" rung? I've been having 1/2 or 1 can of green beans since induction...I thought it just fell under the "vegetables" category Someone please help? Thanks!!
                            ~Lisa
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                            • #44
                              Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

                              You are correct - greenbeans are listed in regular veggies as waxbeansor string
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                              • #45
                                Re: OWL Power of 5 - 5 net gram foods

                                Originally posted by Atkid
                                You are correct - greenbeans are listed in regular veggies as waxbeansor string
                                Whew! Thanks Atkid
                                ~Lisa
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                                Low-carb RULES, and low-calorie drools.
                                194/165.6/140
                                5'2"
                                Mini-goal #3: get below 160 pounds.
                                Mini-goal #2: get below 170 pounds. -- met March 18!
                                Mini-goal #1 (get below 180 pounds) -- met Dec. 8!
                                on my way!

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