3 Day Carb Binge - Is It Okay?

[Exfortek]

Re: 3 Day Carb Binge - Is It Okay?

I swear cheating is not bad, I've cheated on atkins quite a bit to be honest. But still i've lost 140 lbs. and kept it off. I say atkins is great to start off with, I started on induction started losing weight and loved it so it got me movtivated to workout. I never went past induction but that jumpstart in weightloss made me want to lose more so I started to workout. Now I workout atleast 90 mins a day, and I drink and eat what I want, I mean i used to just sit there and eat an xtra large pizza to myself but since i started induction awhile ago I changed my eating habits. I still eat carbs but just not as much and very small proportions. I really can't see how people can stay on it forever, I mean go ahead and cheat but just go work it off w/ excercise that's what I do. I used to be 290 lbs. 7 months ago and now I'm at 150 lbs. and work part time as a physical trainer. I say induction jumpstart, than go workout and let excercise be your way of life. Nothing is achieved by having it be easy. Plus working out speeds up your metabolism and lifting weights raises your basal metobolic rate. Plus if you like to drink just go for low cal beer ^_^ I drink a lot after work and workouts, but i went from budweiser to bud select and I've still only got a body fat percentage of 9% now. So go cheat every once in awhile, but atleast have the willpower to make sure ya burn it off. Cause if you can do that and have that mentality to burn off your mistakes its okay

[n0matter]

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^ What Erin said. And I this is one of the main issues I have with some of the other posters here. When people post a question, please read the question and address it as it is written. No rewording or paraphrasing please. He was not asking for your APPROVAL, which many of you seem to think he was for whatever reason. He was asking what to EXPECT out of it. Some people did respond with a list of side-effects and repurcussions. But I noticed that the majority responded with snotty comments like "Have fun being sick!" or simply stating that they wouldn't do it and that it's not worth it. How is this addressing the question? How is calling me out on my attitude addressing the question in my other "celebration" forum? Response priorities as they should be here:

1) Address the question and respond IF your knowledge on the subject permits. If you can't be "helpful"(keep in line with the subject matter without simply stating opinions), your post is spam/trolling/however you want to classify it.

2) Be polite, don't make assumptions or come to conclusions about a poster based on the question. In other words, drop the "Atkins Attitude", condemning anyone who even dares speaking of not following the diet to the letter and 100%, and stay on topic. If you can't respond politely and feel the need to criticize, take it to a private message.

3) Don't assume that a poster has not yet read the book. Don't assume that you know more(about anything) than the poster. Don't assume that you're right and they're wrong...always. Don't assume. People come here(the new people anyway) because they want to be reassured by people they believe are very knowledgable and empathetic to their dietary endeavors. When you talk down to them or act like they should know better than to ask silly questions, it puts them off. Why do you think the overwhelming majority of posters here are regulars? I don't see a lot of new blood reviving the forums very often.

How the forum seems to function now:

1) You should know the answer to your own question before you even ask it, silly boy/girl. Haven't you read the book?!

2) You're doing something that's not fully condoned by Dr. Atkins?! You want to STOP the diet, even if it's only temporary?! You want to try to deviate from the diet in any way, shape or form?! Get out of here this instant, you heathen!!!

3) You need to agree with everyone else. If you don't, you have an attitude. If you post controversial material, you're automatically wrong and you have an attitude. If you think that it's possible to live without Atkins in your life, you have an attitude and you obviously haven't read the book.

Just my take on things as a fairly new poster who often reads, wants to contribute but then thinks otherwise because I don't want to incur the wrath of the ADBB Nazis.

[Jeudrietr]

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He clearly stated in his board title, "IS IT OKAY?" so people came here and told him it's not okay, not a good idea and there are plenty of food alternatives.

You can go on any diet in the world and tweak the rules a bit and still lose weight if you're exercising and such. That's not the point. If you want to do that then you should go do your own thing. You're here on an ATKINS board where we try to teach people how to eat correctly according to Dr. Atkins. That's all there is to it. There are plenty of 'low carb' forums out there if that's all you want to do. Eating junk when you feel like it because you don't think it hurts you is -not- Atkins.

I'd love to know what the poster was expecting people to say. I doubt he really thought people would come here and say, "Yeah, go ahead and go stuff your face with S'mores. It doesn't matter."

[BellaCarol]

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Really? Like what?

Well like pounds and inches I have to loose AGAIN... not funny, I was so close to goal and just you know blew it!
But It was my wedding, I dont know, I think we are all adults and can decide what is best for us
God Luck!

[ErinRachel1021]

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Jeudrietr. I have read the book cover to cover and I recall seeing NOWHERE that allowing yourself the OCCASIONAL cheat means that you're simply not doing Atkins. For you to downright condemn someone off to another "low carb" board simply because you took issue with the title of the thread (did you actually read the question the body of the post) in imo uncalled for. Like I said, we're all here for the same reason and we are ALL doing Atkins. You have to be able to tweak any diet in a way that suits you. If I were to say that I couldn't eat meat because I'm a vegetarian, does that mean I'm not on Atkins? No.
I'm sorry but this attitude seems a bit worse than n0matters to me.

[Jeudrietr]

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You should go by what's in the book and not by what isn't.

The book clearly states that you should follow the plan as outlined. Feel free to show me where it says you can pig out on junk food and I will agree with you.

[ErinRachel1021]

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No one said pig out or no one said this would be ongoing. You're right it DOESN'T say that anywhere. I've talked to plenty of people who have had great success on ATKINS (yes they called it that) and allowed themselves occasional cheat days. Look at SugarFreeSheila.com, she's also a user here. She even speaks of "fun" days. NO ONE said they'd be gorging themselves and eating a loaf of bread, 30 smores and 3 gallons of Kool-Aid. All that was in question was what possible consequences could be faced. Period.

[n0matter]

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I know a lot of very religious people that don't do as the Bible says 100%. I suppose they should be expelled from their respective religions and pawned off on others that aren't so militant?

The premise for the atkins diet is simply "low carb". I believe that anyone should be able to participate on an Atkins diet board who is following some form of the diet. Perhaps they can offer up some suggestions that the die-hard Atkineers haven't thought of? Perhaps the diet is NOT the end-all/be-all of diets. Maybe it hasn't yet been perfected? Or do you believe that this is the only way people should eat and CAN eat forever and ever if they want to be truly healthy?

God help me if I ever lose the ability to keep and open mind and think for myself...

[BellaCarol]

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I do think that if you are following Atkins you should go by the Book. Period. Cheats are personal choices. But if you open a thread like this in an Atkins Diet Forum, what kind of answer do you expect? I dont know, I would not encourage a person to cheat, it defies the purpose of the board!

[Luna Rossa]

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The reason so many people strongly voice their opinions when someone "does Atkins" with their own tweaks, cheats and exceptions is that if it doesn't work these same people whine and complain about "Atkins" not working. Usually loud and hard to anyone who will listen. It's the same thing with people who eat nothing but bacon and eggs because they dont like vegetables. Low carb, yes. But not Atkins as the Dr. laid it out, and not healthy.

Remember there are lots of newbies and lurkers reading who might very well FAIL if they follow someone's own plan where they might have succeeded following Dr. Atkins' plan.

People, if a poster comes across as snitty or just plain drives you insane constantly - IGNORE them or PM a mod.

[Rubysugar]

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People, if a poster comes across as snitty or just plain drives you insane constantly - IGNORE them or PM a mod.

Or re-read the post and see if you can't make it sound positive. A whole lot can be lost in how a person reads a sentence, especially if punctuation is misplaced or just missing.
Woman, without her, man is nothing.
Woman without her man, is nothing.
See what I mean? (but on this note, the first one is correct *cackles*)


The original poster already said he may have been defensive at first, he is not hollerin' about anyone being militant anymore. I do think Erin had a valid point about being less negative in responses. But we all have our moments. Some more than others.

But to address the original question.
You may regret the increase in carbs. I always do, yes, I know, I know... I have even cheated. It wasn't even a huge cheat, a burger, fries and a coke and the next morning I felt like I had personally killed a case of beer the night before AND, swear to the gods, I had gained 7 lbs over night. I soooooo wanted to be able to give that dern burger and fries back. So basicly, it might not effect you that much or it might ruin a good time. I would definitely do anything in moderation. Until you know your own body better.
Oh, and I have gone from being a "bring my own bottle" kinda girl to a "can I just have a glass of yours" kinda girl 'cause that's all I can handle.
Melinda<--- cheap date

Now, let's all relax and chill a little bit, maybe re-read some posts to see if it didn't have to come off as course as the first impression was... come on... group hug... you know you wanna.... Hey! Who's hand is that!??!!

[BellaCarol]

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LOL Melinda

[Rubysugar]

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oh yeah...

And most folks will tell you that they give advice according to "The Book" and nothing else. In fact most posters here do. I do. I know it works. If something lese has worked for you, then that's Fabu! But not what most of us give advice on. And there ARE lots of other Low-carb sites that give general low-carb advice, h3ll, I have seen people on other boards say it's okay to do meat and eggs for 3 months. I personally think that is one of the worst things someone could do and the thought absolutely repulses me. ADBB is for people following Atkins and who are looking to do it by the book. Nothing wrong with that. No one is trying to lead any newbies in under false pretenses so we can have a good go at them ambush style. Alright, well, maybe I did it that one time....

[2big4mysize]

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the title of this topic is 3 day carb binge - is it okay?

naturally Atkineers are going to answer no it isn't okay to have a 3 day carb binge. Dr Atkins in induction rule 5 says eat nothing not on the acceptable food list so no cheating there. he goes on later to tell folk they will lose the health benefits they have acheived doing Atkins if they chose to give in to a craving and have the high carb food. many folk have decided hey I'm going to cheat and not been able to get that Atkins eating loving feeling back either so they want to advise out original poster about that too so for this life event they are well armed when they decide to deliberately jump off plan.

lecturing members on doing so is rude on your part. the poster ask if it was okay to binge for 3 days and any memeber can answer and support their answer just as you can tell then do it and support your position.If the orginal poster didn't want advice on this matter they should have used different words to title this topic.

debate is healthy and lots of facts about blood sugar and alternatives to this binge have been discussed. if you don't like the tone folk use in answering we have an ignore feature which allows you to never read a post by that person should you choice to use it.

As to your opinion that folk can stop and start at will we got a whole forum full of second time around folk who will tell you from experience they can't. weight loss statistics back them up too 9 out of 10 folk who start will not make it to goal. any help any one can give somebody even if it is scaring the heck of of them or making them mad should they even think about cheating would be in posters best interests.

^ What Erin said. And I this is one of the main issues I have with some of the other posters here. When people post a question, please read the question and address it as it is written. No rewording or paraphrasing please. He was not asking for your APPROVAL, which many of you seem to think he was for whatever reason. He was asking what to EXPECT out of it. Some people did respond with a list of side-effects and repurcussions. But I noticed that the majority responded with snotty comments like "Have fun being sick!" or simply stating that they wouldn't do it and that it's not worth it. How is this addressing the question? How is calling me out on my attitude addressing the question in my other "celebration" forum? Response priorities as they should be here:

1) Address the question and respond IF your knowledge on the subject permits. If you can't be "helpful"(keep in line with the subject matter without simply stating opinions), your post is spam/trolling/however you want to classify it.

2) Be polite, don't make assumptions or come to conclusions about a poster based on the question. In other words, drop the "Atkins Attitude", condemning anyone who even dares speaking of not following the diet to the letter and 100%, and stay on topic. If you can't respond politely and feel the need to criticize, take it to a private message.

3) Don't assume that a poster has not yet read the book. Don't assume that you know more(about anything) than the poster. Don't assume that you're right and they're wrong...always. Don't assume. People come here(the new people anyway) because they want to be reassured by people they believe are very knowledgable and empathetic to their dietary endeavors. When you talk down to them or act like they should know better than to ask silly questions, it puts them off. Why do you think the overwhelming majority of posters here are regulars? I don't see a lot of new blood reviving the forums very often.

How the forum seems to function now:

1) You should know the answer to your own question before you even ask it, silly boy/girl. Haven't you read the book?!

2) You're doing something that's not fully condoned by Dr. Atkins?! You want to STOP the diet, even if it's only temporary?! You want to try to deviate from the diet in any way, shape or form?! Get out of here this instant, you heathen!!!

3) You need to agree with everyone else. If you don't, you have an attitude. If you post controversial material, you're automatically wrong and you have an attitude. If you think that it's possible to live without Atkins in your life, you have an attitude and you obviously haven't read the book.

Just my take on things as a fairly new poster who often reads, wants to contribute but then thinks otherwise because I don't want to incur the wrath of the ADBB Nazis.

[ladyinred]

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We can agree to disagree, but one thing that is totally not tolerable is name calling. I do not appreciate being called a ****. (As somone who didn't agree with the OP or another poster here I assume I am one of the Nazis). Do you know what Nazis are? Do you know what they did? Have you seen, read about, experienced through first hand telling of the horrors these creatures inflicted upon humanity?? I cried for 3 days after a visit to a concentration camp. No one here has made me cry for 3 days, that's for sure. So if you want to disagree, that's fine. Everyone's entitled to an opinion. But don't you dare call anyone names because they don't agree with you.