Help, I don't want to quit..

[IrishMom82]

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That would be nice if it was true... most people use atkins to simply gorge on food and eat sticks of butter and loads of bacon and whatever else "unhealthy" food they choose...

That is a direct slap to the face of all the die-hard succesful members of this board. People on this board follow Atkins to the T. It's a slap to my face and I'm definately not perfect when it comes to Atkins. I've cheated numerous times...at least I can admit that I'm CHEATING (aka "carb loading")

but can i please get someone who can actually read my post and take it for what it is.. can you please forget the aspect of cheating, can i have someone with an open mind who realizes a planned cheat is not a cheat but a required part of weightloss for some people...

This is insulting to anyone who is trying to help you. People here are not closed minded. This is a very strict Atkins board. We follow the 2002 edition of Atkins. To say someone is closedminded because they are trying to help you by stearing down a path that has worked for them is just plain mean.

Wow 80 pounds huh over what period of time? LOL J/k

Call it a joke in you opinion but if I was Lyssie I would be very offended. I only wish I could be at an 80 lb. weightloss. You shouldn't talk so lightly of someone's hard work.

You need to remember that weightloss is SLOW if you want to be HEALTHY!!!!!

Your are also insulting everyone here by saying you are on ATKINS. A cheat is a cheat whether it's planned or not. To say you follow atkins then you carb load is NOT atkins! It's gotten to the point where you are offense to those who actually ARE following atkins = strict 2 week induction, then climbing the OWL ladder, then Pre-Maintenance, then Maintenance.

I'm going to say it again....if carb loading works for you fine but don't call whatever the heck you are doing Atkins.

[IrishMom82]

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just trying to reiterate what plan i'm on and that it's not so one tracked as some define it, even to the owners of said plan...

The said owners of this plan that we follow on this board (DANDR 2002) is dead. No where in his book that we base this forum on does he say that fruit and bread are ok on Induction. Dr. Atkins is "one tracked" as are the members here because they KNOW WHAT WORKS!!!!

[carbless_in_seattle]

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The said owners of this plan that we follow on this board (DANDR 2002) is dead. No where in his book that we base this forum on does he say that fruit and bread are ok on Induction. Dr. Atkins is "one tracked" as are the members here because they KNOW WHAT WORKS!!!!

correct. "atkins" is not just a blanket term that covers anything low-carb. It is not a medical term, or a scientific term, it is a term created by those following Dr. Atkins' way of life. it is someone's last name. the creator of a specific way of life. The only things attributed to his last name, are the things that he said/wrote. Anything that you do, that was not said, or written by Dr. Atkins himself, is not part of his diet. obviously.

[TheDogAteMyName]

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Don't go all meat! You need veggies. Speaking of...what veggies are you eating daily? Maybe your body is trying to tell you it's time to make the next move...to OWL. C'mon and join me in OWL, it may be just the thing you need If I hung around on induction for 7 months I'd cheat too. Honestly I am incredibly happy and never feel deprived on OWL (ongoing weight loss phase of Atkins).

[*Oh~My~Gosh*]

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Look.... Your "cheat days" aren't helping the scale move, right?? obviously what you're doing isn't going to work. Come on, eating orange chicken and not thinking you're consuming a load of sugar? Give me a freaking break....

If you don't like the advice you're given here, go somewhere else. You are on a board that deals with individuals looking for support while following the SAME PLAN - ATKINS... Whatever you're doing is not working, you're bloated, you eat crap somedays to help the bloat - how the heck does that make any sense at all?

I hope you find the answers you're looking for, or rather the answers you'll accept. Unfortunately, I don't think you're going to find them here. Best of luck to you.

Yes they actually are.. like i've said several times throughout this thread... after the first carb load i waited 2+ months, i have to look at my blog it might have been close to 3 the scale did not move, i never veered off coarse bounced around at the same weight for 3 months... had a carb load scale started move not only the water weight disappeard... I know i'm eating loads of sugar and that's the point, i want carbs.. when have i said that's not the point to get get carbed up...

LOL at this weird go somewhere else outcry you all have..How many times do i have to say I am where I am suppose to be, even though you all cant see it I am a fellow atkinite(lmao smh)..I am here to get opinions, expriences, comments etc of other atkinnites as well as give my opinions, expriences, comments etc...it has nothing to do with not liking the advice here. do you not think on another site there would be people who might have a different opinion and i would not comment to them as well, I'm just being forthright and commenting on the advice or comments etc given as I would to any on any subject or disscussion i am apart of.. i'm sorry if you've said something that warrented a responce that you did not like.. but a lot of you are just so concrete about your views/opinions you aren't willing to see anyones way but your own.. i'm just trying to get you to see things clearly.. like the above poster she commented like she didnt even read the thread.. she called my days cheat days and talked about them as i run around cheating and having these days just for the heck of it, just for fun,.. and like i didn't say I have tried to do just 1 day and it didnt work that it must be at least 2..and i've said several times why i eat what i eat and that i want to be carby and that carb loading does move the scale... i mean a lot of these post are just odd.. i'm sorry if that makes you feel sad but they are...and that's not said with callus, just seems like you all are looking for a reason to condemn instead of add something of value or say something worthwhile...

How does it not make sense? What alot of you seem to think is that carb loading one month should eliminate the bloat forever, ever month some women bloat and every month they need bloat relief...

What i'm doing is working like i said the only times the scale have moved is when i first did a carb reload, when i lost all the water weight i had gained plus 5 pounds and their i stayed for 2-3 months being clean, until i did a carb reload to eliminate bloat and i lost 5 pounds from that and the following month did the same lost the bloat plus another 5 pounds...

You are on a board that deals with individuals looking for support while following the SAME PLAN - ATKINS

EXACTLY! why i am here....

[chouse]

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I'm not going to say you are or are not following Atkins cuz I'm still reading and haven't figured out what exactly Atkins is. I did read your post early today but couldn't respond then. I too retain water like the Hoover Dam. About a month ago, I honestly gained 14 pounds in one week! I had cankles people. My legs looked like stove pipes! BUT, with that said, I started taking a fluid pill that my dr prescribed to me that I had NOT been taking. Within about 3 days, I lost every once of the water weight. Go to the doctor! You will feel better and can avoid the water retention every month. You'll be able to see your actual weight loss and maybe it would help with the "planned cheat days" as well. Just my opinion. Good luck!

[Greeneggs&ham]

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OMg! This has been a most entertaining thread to read tonight! I just wanted to be part of the insanity by getting us back to the OP and sticking to answers OMG is looking for:

But every month without fail I gain 20 pounds of water weight ... and the only why i can get it to go away is to have a planned cheat, which must last at least 2 days ...

I had my planned cheat and within 3 days the water was gone and i was only 2 pounds heavier than when the bloat came ...

So as I see it, on Atkin's with a planned cheat, you are gaining 2 pounds a month. If that's acceptable, then we are done here. If it's not, you need to seek out professional advice instead of relying on us overly critical types who can't recognize the sheer brilliance behind the plan you are following.

but in the last 5 days I have ate nothing off plan or gone over 30 carbs a day and everyday I have been steadliy gaining.. 10 pounds in the last 4 days eating on plan...

IF you were following the real Atkin's plan, I'd say you'd have to give it two weeks of Induction on <20 grams of carbs to rebound from your carb loading, but since you are on the Atkin's with planned cheat diet, I'm afraid I'm too much of a moron to give you useful advice.

So i have decided to give up low carb, I guess i'm just one of those people it doenst work for...

I would agree that the Atkin's with planned cheat method does not seem to be working for you. Might I suggest another diet with more research devoted to it? Atkin's would be one option, or perhaps Weight Watchers, NutriSystem, or Fit for Life? If bloating still occurs on one of those, there is always the option to alter the plan to your liking (although it might be harder to find a forum with comapssionate fools to suport you!).

i went off plan today decided i was gonna try another plan and ate carbs... I want to go back on plan tomorrow but am still unsure this plan is right for me *sigh*

I'm not sure the Atkin's with a planned cheat diet is right for you either, but you need to decide for yourself which modified diet works best for you, and then search out a board with members who think that truth is relative and whatever feels best for you today IS the best for you.

Now what I really want to know is, "who gave this thread TWO stars??"

[IrishMom82]

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Alright I think we're all done here, at least I am. We've done what we can to help you and you don't seem to want to listen to what we're saying. I think it's time for a moderator to step in and lock this silly thread.

[eclectikat]

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I agree Irish Mom

And... Good luck O-my-gosh... I hope we see you here on a different thread on a different topic where we can continue to encourage you through this journey.

THAT is what this place is all about to me... encouragement, support and good hearted dialogue about everything Atkins and beyond.

That is why this thread should be shut down.

[colleenieweenie]

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Yes they actually are.. like i've said several times throughout this thread... after the first carb load i waited 2+ months, i have to look at my blog it might have been close to 3 the scale did not move, i never veered off coarse bounced around at the same weight for 3 months... had a carb load scale started move not only the water weight disappeard... I know i'm eating loads of sugar and that's the point, i want carbs.. when have i said that's not the point to get get carbed up...

LOL at this weird go somewhere else outcry you all have..How many times do i have to say I am where I am suppose to be, even though you all cant see it I am a fellow atkinite(lmao smh)..I am here to get opinions, expriences, comments etc of other atkinnites as well as give my opinions, expriences, comments etc...it has nothing to do with not liking the advice here. do you not think on another site there would be people who might have a different opinion and i would not comment to them as well, I'm just being forthright and commenting on the advice or comments etc given as I would to any on any subject or disscussion i am apart of.. i'm sorry if you've said something that warrented a responce that you did not like.. but a lot of you are just so concrete about your views/opinions you aren't willing to see anyones way but your own.. i'm just trying to get you to see things clearly.. like the above poster she commented like she didnt even read the thread.. she called my days cheat days and talked about them as i run around cheating and having these days just for the heck of it, just for fun,.. and like i didn't say I have tried to do just 1 day and it didnt work that it must be at least 2..and i've said several times why i eat what i eat and that i want to be carby and that carb loading does move the scale... i mean a lot of these post are just odd.. i'm sorry if that makes you feel sad but they are...and that's not said with callus, just seems like you all are looking for a reason to condemn instead of add something of value or say something worthwhile...

How does it not make sense? What alot of you seem to think is that carb loading one month should eliminate the bloat forever, ever month some women bloat and every month they need bloat relief...

What i'm doing is working like i said the only times the scale have moved is when i first did a carb reload, when i lost all the water weight i had gained plus 5 pounds and their i stayed for 2-3 months being clean, until i did a carb reload to eliminate bloat and i lost 5 pounds from that and the following month did the same lost the bloat plus another 5 pounds...

You are on a board that deals with individuals looking for support while following the SAME PLAN - ATKINS

EXACTLY! why i am here....

Call it what you want sister!

Thanks for the laughs! Have a great night!

[carbless_in_seattle]

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search out a board with members who think that truth is relative and whatever feels best for you today IS the best for you.

Now what I really want to know is, "who gave this thread TWO stars??"

amen!! If she feels that planned cheats are the reason for loss of water weight, then she is contradicting every scientific study ever done. Look, its just not possible, you think it's helping, it's probably a placebo effect.

btw it was 3 stars earlier....


please don't respond to this post.

[*Oh~My~Gosh*]

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That is a direct slap to the face of all the die-hard succesful members of this board. People on this board follow Atkins to the T. It's a slap to my face and I'm definately not perfect when it comes to Atkins. I've cheated numerous times...at least I can admit that I'm CHEATING (aka "carb loading")



This is insulting to anyone who is trying to help you. People here are not closed minded. This is a very strict Atkins board. We follow the 2002 edition of Atkins. To say someone is closedminded because they are trying to help you by stearing down a path that has worked for them is just plain mean.




Call it a joke in you opinion but if I was Lyssie I would be very offended. I only wish I could be at an 80 lb. weightloss. You shouldn't talk so lightly of someone's hard work.

You need to remember that weightloss is SLOW if you want to be HEALTHY!!!!!

Your are also insulting everyone here by saying you are on ATKINS. A cheat is a cheat whether it's planned or not. To say you follow atkins then you carb load is NOT atkins! It's gotten to the point where you are offense to those who actually ARE following atkins = strict 2 week induction, then climbing the OWL ladder, then Pre-Maintenance, then Maintenance.

I'm going to say it again....if carb loading works for you fine but don't call whatever the heck you are doing Atkins.

I'm not exactly sure why you're telling me that people who gorge on atkins is a slap in the face to you... I know exactly about the die-hards that why I didnt say all... I'm not sure if you think i was saying you gorge on food...or if you are just offend by people who gorge and felt the need to tell me... i'm not really sure where this post is headed...

You've cheated numerous times, was that for medical reasons or fun? Each time I've "cheated" was to get rid of bloat.. not for fun i do not cheat because i have no will power or because i'm craving something.... I have only consumed carbs to alleviate bloat... you are not "carb loading" because you need to carbs for some bodily function you are cheating for fun... and i personally dont think there is anything wrong with that this plan is strict sometimes you need a potato or a piece of bread or even something sweet.. i'd never condemn someone or say they werent following atkins because they cheated... just get back on path...

It's not mean at all.. if i was closed minded i would want to know... you and carbless are boarding are die-hards lmaooo i mean WOW!!! it's kinda scary... I didnt mean to offend any, just extending a courteosy i'd want extended to me... I haven't downed anyones advice, like i said the only post i've talked about are the ones that were just hardcore atkins propaganda or paths i've already tried or just stuff that should have been said to someone seeking support and advice...

How did i talk lightly of her success my lol had nothing to do with her... I lol'ed because i was like 80 pounds? huh, how much time? as if to say wow following carb cycling how much time did it take as if i wanted the info so i could try and then i was like lol just kidding... it had nothing to do with her....

correct. "atkins" is not just a blanket term that covers anything low-carb. It is not a medical term, or a scientific term, it is a term created by those following Dr. Atkins' way of life. it is someone's last name. the creator of a specific way of life. The only things attributed to his last name, are the things that he said/wrote. Anything that you do, that was not said, or written by Dr. Atkins himself, is not part of his diet. obviously.

WOW.....

Nice to know only those who follow atkins can give the term meaning and that they people he gave permission to use his name and run his business have no say so in what there product is...i can go on but just wow.... Thank you for telling me what atkins means to you.... someone else in a min will be in here to tell me what atkins means to them.. and then what? whose atkins opinion shall i follow lol