Help, I don't want to quit..

[Elsie150]

Re: Help, I don't want to quit..

Does anybody have a link to a..um...more open minded...board she can get the answers she wants instead of the answers she is hearing?? Please lets help her and post them so she can get the answers she wants.

Oh My Gosh...We wish you the best. Your problem is not irrelevant..several of us have spent our time posting trying to help. Many of us have suggested that you go see a doctor. A fact which you failed to address any time it is mentioned. You are intent to do this your way. Which is fine. Free choice. But here we support a different Atkins than you are doing...that is all.

I really hope you find the answers you are looking for as nobody should be all bloated by 15-20 pounds every month...it is not a normal part of Atkins. The women who do bloat during TOM here still stick with the plan despite it. I wish that since I know we have no hope in heck to talk you out of the way you are doing your modified Atkins that you make better choices when you do cheat so that at least you do not go back to feeding your body the foods that helped make you fat in the first place. Chinese food...fruit juice...potato chips are not veering a lil left...you are on a whole other road than the one we are travelling here.

I hope someone has a board link that can help you. I wish health and happiness on your journey.

[carbless_in_seattle]

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LOL. Why though? Some people lose better when they up their carbs and go from induction and move up a rung or even skip a rung... but my problem is irrelevant because why, you dont like my carb tolerance in order to loose weight and remove bloat? or is it the kind of carbs you dont like because most carbs are treated by the body the same way..whether its pure sugar or bread...I just find all this die hard atkiness a little strange when other sections of the board its not frowned upon to veer a lil left if it makes you successful...

its not what i "like" or "dont like" about what you're doing.

You come to an atkins forum and say "im doing a modified version of atkins and not getting the results i want", and then are suprised when people say "well stop modifying it"?

and like elsie said, you're not veering a little left to make you successful. You're veering to the other side of town and it still hasn't solved your problem. You say a carb binge solves your bloat problem for a day or 2? That doesn't sound like a solution to me.

You're not saying "im retaining 20 pounds of water!!!!...so I'm carb loading to make it better". If you were, this thread wouldn't exist.

You're saying "im retaining 20 pounds of water!!!... so im carb loading, it appears to make things better for a day or 2, then im retaining 20 pounds of water!!!"

so regardless of whether or not you've found some miracle weight-loss regimen that lasts a day or 2. the fact is, the carb loading hasn't done away with your bloating problem right?

so go to your dr., find the real cause, do the steps to make it not happen, and stop defending your ridiculous contradictions-of-common-science theories!

[joee5]

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Here,here. I'm with Carbless on that one. God Bless, Joe

[*Oh~My~Gosh*]

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yes.


Also, everyone gains water weight/gets bloated from TOM. It's part of PMS. I think a lot of people (including myself) thought you knew that going into this thread. If you didn't, and now you think you've realized why you're having water weight issues, I'm glad that you were able to figure it out.

Its a good thing i posted this though... i almost didnt post about my carb reloading because i know there are some strange people out there and they would harp on it.. but thought i'd be honest and post my real exprience... and to be honest many of you aren't here for support at all, just to belittle and spread your what you think atkins is propaganda... how does one see someone struggling with weight loss asking for help and say you arent on atkins you arent on nothing, this thread was about incouragement, how about a wow it seems to be working for you, it's unorthodox but keep up the good work..don't give up, instead of is this real? What kind of sick person kicks someone when they are down basically trivilizing their efforts, telling them they are not on any kind of plan, when they obviously are and have the success to show for it... why try and make the person feel like their efforts are worthless... because they dont follow the plan exactly as you do.. there are plenty of atkins versions and some work for some and not for others... there are plenty of undiscovered things that work with atkins that work for some that won't work for others i happened to find one that works for me.... I mean i just find some of the post in this thread bizarre and no i dont feel that way because I knew what i was in for when i posted this..but i can totally see someone coming here looking for support getting these responces feeling like crap and getting totally depressed and stop what "isn't atkins"..SMH...

It's a good that I posted in here because through all the ridiculous comments i did get some good ones and i'm glad to know i'm not the only one... thanks everyone..

[joee5]

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We only tryin to help you get through your "sticking point" shall we say. God Bless, Joe

[carbless_in_seattle]

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Its a good thing i posted this though... i almost didnt post about my carb reloading because i know there are some strange people out there and they would harp on it.. but thought i'd be honest and post my real exprience... and to be honest many of you aren't here for support at all, just to belittle and spread your what you think atkins is propaganda... how does one see someone struggling with weight loss asking for help and say you arent on atkins you arent on nothing, this thread was about incouragement, how about a wow it seems to be working for you,it's unorthodox but keep up the good work..don't give up, instead of is this real? What kind of sick person kicks someone when they are down basically trivilizing their efforts, trelling them they are not on any kind of plan, when they obviously are and have the success to show for it... why try and make the try and make the person feel like their efforts are worthless... because they dont follow the plan exactly as you do.. there are plenty of atkins versions and some work for some and not for others... there are plenty undiscovered things that work for atkins that work for some that won't work for others i happen to find one that works for me.... I mean i just find some of the post in this thread bizarre and no i dont feel that way because I knew what i was in for when i posted this..but i can totally see someone coming here looking for support getting these responces feeling like crap and getting totally depressed and stop what "isn't atkins"..SMH...

It's a good that I posted in here because through all the ridiculous comments i did get some good ones and i'm glad to know i'm not the only one... thanks everyone..

stop playing the martyr. you got advice, and you shot it down. Look, a ton of people told you to go to the Doctor, we don't know what's wrong with you. We're not medical doctors. All we know is how to do the diet, and how to do it right. And for all of us doing it right...its working.

I personally think the carb-loading has nothing to do with your problem, and that it's the one thing that's keeping you losing weight. If I were you, I would ditch the meat/veggies/exercise, and carb load all the time. If it makes you lose weight, and kicks the bloat, why wouldn't you?

[joee5]

Re: Help, I don't want to quit..

Perhaps you should stick with the plan. It seems to work for 99.9999 % of us, so what's that tell ya? Stay true to you. God Bless,Joe

[carbless_in_seattle]

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Bottomline: For every person on this site, who has followed Dr. Atkins diet to a T, we have been successful. Some people, have been diagnosed with medical issues, and need to modify things according to the Doctors advice.

It sounds to me like you have a medical issue, and should

.... visit the doctor, and heed his/her advice.

[Elsie150]

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Here you go...I am sure you will find more what you are looking for at this board. All sorts of WOE there. Not just DANDR 2002 like here. All the best...

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[Lyssie]

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Hi. Ummmm... when I did my version of Atkins, I would be clean for a week or two, then cheat and eat like you do on your "reload" days, drop some weight and cycle back... it's yo-yo dieting. It's not good. It's hard in the long run... It got to the point where my "reload" days were more than my clean days since I figured, since I lost weight while eating like that for a couple days it was fine...

I lost 80lbs the first time with Atkins... Yeah, I gained that back, plus more by following this cycle...

You need to go to the doctor and figure out what is wrong with you that would cause you to retain all this water weight. It's not normal for it to fluctuate by 20lbs every month until a carb binge.

How much water *are* you drinking? Are you being "regular"?

In all fairness, using someone who's been doing Atkins for years who told you to carb load... a lot of us have been doing Atkins for years and are telling you not to. Some of us have lost over 130lbs eating clean. Sorry, but I'm not going to tell you to keep doing this. I've been there and done it and it's not the right way to do this.

Best of Luck.

[*Oh~My~Gosh*]

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I have read this whole post and all the replys, but I am still unsure of what is wanted? It almost feels like you want us to say its ok to cheat, or that its ok to go off plan. You never really said if you have been to the doctor or not. I guess you must do what you feel is best, but you won't find anyone here who will tell you its ok to cheat (a planned chat IS a cheat) or to just quit. I am sorry and hope you find whatever you are looking for.

I just wanted opinions and comments...and i got opinions and comments lol...i'm just a little more laid back than some and open minded which is why i tired the reload in the first place... i dont want you to say it's okay to cheat but i would like people not to be so one tracked and open their minds... and not just belt out you're not suppose to do that, that's not atkins, even though its working for a person.. i have that a little strange sorry...

I dunno, something here doesnt sound right. I dispise stepping on me scale, but whenever I do it seems to be moving down. Either I'm losing or the scale is cheating me. Maybe you sleepwalk and eat in your sleep? Had an ex many,many,many moons ago(3 many's), she would sleepwalk and do stuff you'd normally do wide awake. And she was sound asleep. Oh well, just a thought. Find yourself. God Bless, Joe

LOL dont i wish that was the case... thank you same to you...

are you sure its not water weight along with being backed-up? Constipation is one of atkins side-effects, and maybe your carb load is just making you visit the crapper and get it out?

Lmaooooo umm unless my crapper is in the front... its pure water lol...

Does anybody have a link to a..um...more open minded...board she can get the answers she wants instead of the answers she is hearing?? Please lets help her and post them so she can get the answers she wants.

Oh My Gosh...We wish you the best. Your problem is not irrelevant..several of us have spent our time posting trying to help. Many of us have suggested that you go see a doctor. A fact which you failed to address any time it is mentioned. You are intent to do this your way. Which is fine. Free choice. But here we support a different Atkins than you are doing...that is all.

I really hope you find the answers you are looking for as nobody should be all bloated by 15-20 pounds every month...it is not a normal part of Atkins. The women who do bloat during TOM here still stick with the plan despite it. I wish that since I know we have no hope in heck to talk you out of the way you are doing your modified Atkins that you make better choices when you do cheat so that at least you do not go back to feeding your body the foods that helped make you fat in the first place. Chinese food...fruit juice...potato chips are not veering a lil left...you are on a whole other road than the one we are travelling here.

I hope someone has a board link that can help you. I wish health and happiness on your journey.

I dont need a more openminded board lol... this one is fine... it's not about getting what i want, i'm just expressing my opinion of some of the answers..i'm very forthright lol
I did not comment on the doctor purely for personal reasons please be aware it did not go unnoticed or ignored...
Infact you all have talked me out of the way i was doing "modified atkins"..... now that i know others have the 3 weeks bloated 1 week normal, i feel much better and am looking into alternatives only because I dont want to fall back into old eating patterns...

its not what i "like" or "dont like" about what you're doing.

You come to an atkins forum and say "im doing a modified version of atkins and not getting the results i want", and then are suprised when people say "well stop modifying it"?

and like elsie said, you're not veering a little left to make you successful. You're veering to the other side of town and it still hasn't solved your problem. You say a carb binge solves your bloat problem for a day or 2? That doesn't sound like a solution to me.

You're not saying "im retaining 20 pounds of water!!!!...so I'm carb loading to make it better". If you were, this thread wouldn't exist.

You're saying "im retaining 20 pounds of water!!!... so im carb loading, it appears to make things better for a day or 2, then im retaining 20 pounds of water!!!"

so regardless of whether or not you've found some miracle weight-loss regimen that lasts a day or 2. the fact is, the carb loading hasn't done away with your bloating problem right?

so go to your dr., find the real cause, do the steps to make it not happen, and stop defending your ridiculous contradiction of common science theories!

That's not what i'm saying at all, I'm saying i'm doing Atkins by the book, and it's only when I modify it, is it that I get the results not that i want, but that i am supposed to be getting...
It solves the problem... but like others have said it's a week normal, 3 weeks struggling to get rid of the bloat...which is exactly what i have and the only reason i got less days last month was because my tom lasted longer and i tried to wait out the bloat...
What am I saying if not that.. that is exactly what i'm saying, i'm forced to carb load every month to relieve water weight... I hate doing it, I dont do it because I want to treat or am craving something.. i might eat junk food when i carb reload but i'm not hoarding cookies and cakes and eating hoards of food, i eat a lot of breads and fruit juices which are healthy foods... and very carby i wanna make sure i get ebough carbs in.. like i said i might have some frozen yogurt or chinese food but even those make me feel like i'm cheating myself.. and arent because i'm craving them... i just happen to be taking someone for chinese last night, i needed to eat so i got some... i dont really crave anything.. and i'm scared to start.. and i'm sick of the unsure/cheating feeling and i'm scared to fall back into old habits and even eating legal higher rung foods i'd feel like i was cheating... I dont eat PB because i feel like its cheating lol....
No i'm saying i'm retaining water no matter how much and its umcomfortable, it wont go away after tom, i've waited it out, it still didn;t go away.. and unless i carb up for at least 2 days and as soon as i eat Low carb again after the first day i lose up to 10 pounds of water, no 3 day ketosis period nothing it just leaves and the scale moves down like i never ate a carb...
Umm yes it has done away with my bloating problem for that month.. new month new bloat to deal with, that's with most women..
Wtf lol
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Thanks everyone.....

[joee5]

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Keep up the positive attitude. Must admit, look at all the attention you created around here. God Bless,Joe

[brandywine1241]

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Must admit, look at all the attention you created around here. God Bless,Joe

Joe, I think you hit the nail on the Head!!!!!!!

[Elsie150]

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<<I dont need a more openminded board lol... this one is fine... it's not about getting what i want, i'm just expressing my opinion of some of the answers..i'm very forthright lol
I did not comment on the doctor purely for personal reasons please be aware it did not go unnoticed or ignored...
Infact you all have talked me out of the way i was doing "modified atkins"..... now that i know others have the 3 weeks bloated 1 week normal, i feel much better and am looking into alternatives only because I dont want to fall back into old eating patterns...>>

well...as you can see...we are pretty forthright around here as well. Glad we gave you some stuff to think about. Best of luck!!!

[*Oh~My~Gosh*]

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Perhaps you should stick with the plan. It seems to work for 99.9999 % of us, so what's that tell ya? Stay true to you. God Bless,Joe

I think i'm a freak in the .00001% lol.. but i'm trying it's just so hard to be so committed for months and see no results, no loss only gain and only yoyoing between the same 5 pounds....

Hi. Ummmm... when I did my version of Atkins, I would be clean for a week or two, then cheat and eat like you do on your "reload" days, drop some weight and cycle back... it's yo-yo dieting. It's not good. It's hard in the long run... It got to the point where my "reload" days were more than my clean days since I figured, since I lost weight while eating like that for a couple days it was fine...

I lost 80lbs the first time with Atkins... Yeah, I gained that back, plus more by following this cycle...

You need to go to the doctor and figure out what is wrong with you that would cause you to retain all this water weight. It's not normal for it to fluctuate by 20lbs every month until a carb binge.

How much water *are* you drinking? Are you being "regular"?

In all fairness, using someone who's been doing Atkins for years who told you to carb load... a lot of us have been doing Atkins for years and are telling you not to. Some of us have lost over 130lbs eating clean. Sorry, but I'm not going to tell you to keep doing this. I've been there and done it and it's not the right way to do this.

Best of Luck.

Wow 80 pounds huh over what period of time? LOL J/k my thing is i'm not craving the off days i actually crave veggies now and wish i could eat more, if i have a hankering for something sweat i'll have a low carb treat...

i probably drink 100 oz of water a day... i've cut down the water amount thinking that was the culprit and nothing.. i've increased it a bit and nothing.. i've increased my veggies.. cut down my protein, increased my fat, decreased my fat.. done the meat and egg.. you name it i've done it all except for the fat fast which i dont think i can do lol...and the only thing that got the scale moving and the water gone was a reload I don't want to do it, i dont crave it, but i know it's playing with fire which is why i made this thread...

Yeah but they arent giving me an alternative, she gave me something that worked, so far people are just saying i don't think you should do that because its not by the book.. i know it's not by the book lol... do you have something "by the book" that would work i'm open to all suggestions lol... like i've said i've tried just about everything by the book except the fat fast...

stop playing the martyr. you got advice, and you shot it down. Look, a ton of people told you to go to the Doctor, we don't know what's wrong with you. We're not medical doctors. All we know is how to do the diet, and how to do it right. And for all of us doing it right...its working.

I personally think the carb-loading has nothing to do with your problem, and that it's the one thing that's keeping you losing weight. If I were you, I would ditch the meat/veggies/exercise, and carb load all the time. If it makes you lose weight, and kicks the bloat, why wouldn't you?

I'm not playing it, like i said i knew what i was in for.. it just saddens me to know some of these post would have been made to an unexpecting person...
I haven't shot one thing of untried advice down...

See posts like that last sentence sicken me, what if i didn't know what i was in for and came here for help.. please use some common sense...

Let me just say umm the post you keep harping on about 2 days of bloat relief, i went 5 weeks without a carb reload that's why i only got 2 days from bloat,...and am sitting here partially bloated waiting for tom as i type lol..... and please act like you've heard of carb cycling and that it does work for some people and that when i'm forced to carb load once a month for sake of bloat that it could be having a carb cycle effect on me.. why would you tell someone to go off plan and just eat junk as if you dont know its the combination of the two... i'm sure it was said with tongue in cheek(at least i hope it was) but still..smh...