Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Hi just a few dumb question's !

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #46
    Re: Hi just a few dumb question's !

    Originally posted by Defected View Post
    You told me this already I get it im an out cast to Atkins life style ( even though i had 30 carbs today)
    Can you please tell me what 30 carbs have to do with Atkins for someone who has just finished Induction? I can't seem to find this in DANDR.

    let me add this one thing that you guys may not know ! Weight training is anaerobic and therefore burns primarily carbohydrates (sugar) during the workout.
    Now, you see, I was just going to wish you farewell, but this statement is so profoundly wrong that it actually bothers me. What you are trying to tell us is that anaerobic exercise requires more carbohydrates than someone on Atkins consumes, right? Because if that's what you think, then I have to add this one thing you may not know.

    This is something I wrote a while ago, in reply to another doubting Thomas.

    There are 3 systems that are able to provide ATP: the phosphagen system (this is involved in activities like sprinting), the glycogen-lactic acid system (for activities such as running on medium distances) and aerobic respiration (for activities like running long distances, e.g. half-marathons/marathons). The first system can rapidly provide energy to the muscles for about 10 sec. The energy it provides comes from ATP molecules stored in our muscle cells. However, if you want to perform longer then ~10 sec, these ATP molecules need to be replenished relatively fast. Here is where the glycogen-lactic system comes into play. This system, which can provide energy for about 1.5 minutes, involves the conversion of glycerol stored in the muscles to glucose and then to energy. When there is little glycerol stored in the muscles, the body turns to fats. A fat molecule is composed of fatty acids and a glycerol backbone. When a fat molecule is broken down, this glycerol backbone has the same role as the glycerol you would store in your muscles by eating a large amount of carbohydrate -- dihydroxyacetone phosphate and glyceraldehyde-3-phosphate convert it to glucose in the liver, through a process known as gluconeogenesis. The third system, aerobic respiration, is involved in endurance activities. As usual, you have three possible sources of energy: carbohydrate, fat and protein. If you don't feed it carbohydrates, your body turns again to fat (fatty acids + glycerol). The fatty acids undergo a process known as β-oxidation, which produces CoA's that are used in the Krebs cycle. The same CoA's are produced when your diet consists mainly of carbohydrates, although following a different metabolic pathway.

    So with all these three systems available for producing energy, a person that tries to lose weight on a low-carbohydrate/high-fat diet can do exactly the same type of exercise as a person on a high-carbohydrate/low-fat diet.

    Originally posted by Defected View Post
    3 years ago I was at 2% body fat and was weight lifting long and hard .
    Did you measure that fat percentage by finger-poking your tummy? Because the essential fat, i.e. the fat necessary for survival, is 2-5% for men. Some bodybuilders manage to get into the 3-4% range at the time of a competition, but even they are not able to maintain this body fat percentage for more than a very short period of time, and most get up to 5-10% outside competitions. Furthermore, unless you have perfect genetics, there's no way you can reach 2% in the first place.

    Girls, here are some pictures for you.

    Aaron Maddron, at 3-4% body fat.


    Tom Venuto at 3.7% body fat.


    So Defected, not only do you have better genetics than these guys, but you were maintaining at half their body fat!

    I would enjoy cookies and snacks without worries ! Only reason why I fell out is a personal matter but I will say my will power is back and nothing I mean nothing will stop me from losing weight not even a sugar free snack ...
    That's okay. People can lose weight on diets like Weight Watchers (yes, I know you're not doing WW, it's just an example), on which they are allowed to eat candies and cookies. There are many ways to lose weight and Atkins is only one of them. If you do not want to change your lifestyle and another diet fits your current lifestyle better, then it's okay to do something other than Atkins. Just don't tell anyone you're doing Atkins, because we all know what happened to Pinocchio.

    Seriously, good luck doing your own diet and I hope you'll have a good time on whatever board you decided to join.
    "Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an oyster."

    -- Theodore Roosevelt

    Comment


    • #47
      Re: Hi just a few dumb question's !

      Originally posted by Georgiana View Post
      Can you please tell me what 30 carbs have to do with Atkins for someone who has just finished Induction? I can't seem to find this in DANDR.

      Now, you see, I was just going to wish you farewell, but this statement is so profoundly wrong that it actually bothers me. What you are trying to tell us is that anaerobic exercise requires more carbohydrates than someone on Atkins consumes, right? Because if that's what you think, then I have to add this one thing you may not know.

      This is something I wrote a while ago, in reply to another doubting Thomas.

      There are 3 systems that are able to provide ATP: the phosphagen system (this is involved in activities like sprinting), the glycogen-lactic acid system (for activities such as running on medium distances) and aerobic respiration (for activities like running long distances, e.g. half-marathons/marathons). The first system can rapidly provide energy to the muscles for about 10 sec. The energy it provides comes from ATP molecules stored in our muscle cells. However, if you want to perform longer then ~10 sec, these ATP molecules need to be replenished relatively fast. Here is where the glycogen-lactic system comes into play. This system, which can provide energy for about 1.5 minutes, involves the conversion of glycerol stored in the muscles to glucose and then to energy. When there is little glycerol stored in the muscles, the body turns to fats. A fat molecule is composed of fatty acids and a glycerol backbone. When a fat molecule is broken down, this glycerol backbone has the same role as the glycerol you would store in your muscles by eating a large amount of carbohydrate -- dihydroxyacetone phosphate and glyceraldehyde-3-phosphate convert it to glucose in the liver, through a process known as gluconeogenesis. The third system, aerobic respiration, is involved in endurance activities. As usual, you have three possible sources of energy: carbohydrate, fat and protein. If you don't feed it carbohydrates, your body turns again to fat (fatty acids + glycerol). The fatty acids undergo a process known as β-oxidation, which produces CoA's that are used in the Krebs cycle. The same CoA's are produced when your diet consists mainly of carbohydrates, although following a different metabolic pathway.

      So with all these three systems available for producing energy, a person that tries to lose weight on a low-carbohydrate/high-fat diet can do exactly the same type of exercise as a person on a high-carbohydrate/low-fat diet.


      Did you measure that fat percentage by finger-poking your tummy? Because the essential fat, i.e. the fat necessary for survival, is 2-5% for men. Some bodybuilders manage to get into the 3-4% range at the time of a competition, but even they are not able to maintain this body fat percentage for more than a very short period of time, and most get up to 5-10% outside competitions. Furthermore, unless you have perfect genetics, there's no way you can reach 2% in the first place.

      Girls, here are some pictures for you.

      Aaron Maddron, at 3-4% body fat.


      Tom Venuto at 3.7% body fat.


      So Defected, not only do you have better genetics than these guys, but you were maintaining at half their body fat!

      That's okay. People can lose weight on diets like Weight Watchers (yes, I know you're not doing WW, it's just an example), on which they are allowed to eat candies and cookies. There are many ways to lose weight and Atkins is only one of them. If you do not want to change your lifestyle and another diet fits your current lifestyle better, then it's okay to do something other than Atkins. Just don't tell anyone you're doing Atkins, because we all know what happened to Pinocchio.

      Seriously, good luck doing your own diet and I hope you'll have a good time on whatever board you decided to join.

      Wow your an *** ! You would think that by your last post ! Yes 2% fat ! 3 hours a day in the gym and massive maintenance - my personal trainer did the test 4 times and it was 2% every time . Just shut my account down your views are wrong on this and your mocking is something I don't need to deal with !

      Comment


      • #48
        Re: Hi just a few dumb question's !

        Originally posted by Defected
        Wow your an *** ! You would think that by your last post ! Yes 2% fat ! 3 hours a day in the gym and massive maintenance - my personal trainer did the test 4 times and it was 2% every time . Just shut my account down your views are wrong on this and your mocking is something I don't need to deal with !
        I am not mocking anyone, you certainly misunderstood me. I actually do believe that someone with perfect genetics can reach 2% body fat. However, maintaining at 2% body fat is impossible and unhealthy, which is why even the best bodybuilders raise their body fat percentage after competitions.
        "Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an oyster."

        -- Theodore Roosevelt

        Comment


        • #49
          Re: Hi just a few dumb question's !

          By the way, no that you've mentioned it... what method did your trainer use to measure body fat?
          "Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an oyster."

          -- Theodore Roosevelt

          Comment

          Working...
          X