cant take much more of this (cramps) :(

**chinadoll** · October 27, 2009, 11:51 PM

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Jake why not move up some more in OWL? Maybe the increase in carbs will take the edge off the cramps. Maybe increasing the minerals in your food through OWL would allow them to be absorbed better than the supplement form. Hate to see you give up but this is all I can think of for you at the moment. I have also heard of folks needing additional manganese and potassium and not just the magnesium. I am throwing out whatever I can think of for you that may help.

**Kntrylady** · October 28, 2009, 12:38 AM

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Hi Jake,
I know you say you are drinking about 2 liters of water a day, but I wonder if that is enough. At 245, I drink about 120 ounces, or the equivalent of around 3-1/2 liters a day. I got this figure by halving my weight.
Your post got me curious enough to do an internet search on the subject, and the first major article I came to was by the Mayo Clinic. What I found real interesting is in their list of possible causes (if you ignore all the disease and drug related causes) , the only one that popped out at me is dehydration. The second one is electrolite imbalance, which is what you are taking the supplements for. Night leg cramps - MayoClinic.com
The second return gave me the same information
Leg Cramp | Charley Horse | Muscle Cramp
So if you were to continue your supplements, make sure your sodium intake is adequate, and up you fluid intake.....

**Georgiana** · October 28, 2009, 01:57 AM

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Jake, I'm not sure how things are working in the UK, but have you seen your physician about this? What we are doing here is just guessing...

More guessing... but if you post a menu again (include quantities and net carbs for everything), maybe we can suggest adding this and that... and changing this with that... to make it nutritionally better. I know you've moved to OWL. Are you in OWL Rung 1 or higher?

**Georgiana** · October 28, 2009, 02:00 AM

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Oh, and I agree with what was said about water. You need more than 2 L, imo.

**chinadoll** · October 28, 2009, 04:13 AM

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On your water thread I left a website address that discusses other things that may help-- black cohosh, potassium, right ratio of calcium to magnesium, etc.

**jake1970** · October 28, 2009, 08:23 AM

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many thanks all of you

i was really down this morning as being woken with the cramps is very frustrating especially when i thought they had gone ,im gonna try drinking more water perhaps that could be the cause, especially as of the exercise and the amount i sweat so im gonna try to up it to 3 litres if poss and see if this helps ,also im gonna start to add few more veggies , is it too soon to add fruit i was thinking perhaps a banana mid morning instead of eggs or couple of slices of bacon ,and again thanks everyone for your advice its very reasuring to know people are there
big thanks to all

**Georgiana** · October 28, 2009, 08:31 AM

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is it too soon to add fruit i was thinking perhaps a banana mid morning instead of eggs or couple of slices of bacon

From the USDA Nutrient Database:

An avocado has 690 mg potassium.

A large banana has 487 mg potassium.

**atkinsgal08** · October 28, 2009, 08:32 AM

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>>is it too soon to add fruit i was thinking perhaps a banana mid>>

Yes, it's WAAAAAY too soon for a banana ... and besides they don't have as much potassium as you think.

Eat an avocado if you want a potassium rich food.

Yes, not enough water can indeed cause cramps.

Don't "try" drinking more water ... just do it.

**msanjelpie** · October 28, 2009, 09:25 AM

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During exercise as you sweat, your body loses potassium, sodium, sulfate, chloride, and magnesium. I'm really wondering what your sodium is doing... Eating foods like bacon, bologna, ham etc... might actually be helpful in that they are high in sodium.

Also, don't expect supplements to start working the day you take them... give it a couple of weeks. If your body is low on a mineral it will take a bit to get it built back up in your system...

Another thing to consider is electrolyte drops i.e.:

Electrolytes: Drink for Sports Endurance & Energy

Truvana

http://www.basegear.com/eletewater.html

There has to be SOMETHING out there that will help you...

**Elizellen** · October 29, 2009, 03:29 PM

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I found this info about sports drinks and making your own a while back. Can't remember where so I cannot post a source

Sports drinks contain small amounts of sodium and potassium.

Sodium - 8 oz of a typical sports drink contains 110 mg of sodium. This is the amount of sodium in a small pinch of salt. A teaspoon of salt contains 2300 mg of sodium, so basically you need 1/20th of a teaspoon. Half an ounce of salted peanuts (about 14 peanuts) has this much sodium, and also about 90 mg of potassium.
Potassium - 8 oz of a typical sports drink contains 30 mg of potassium. A cup of tea has 88 mg of potassium.

How to Make a Low-Carb Sports Drink

Two tablespoons of lemon juice contain almost exactly the amount of potassium in 8 oz of a typical sports drink. So, if you want to make your own low-carb sports drink, it's quite easy. Just mix together:

1 cup (8 oz) water (not carbonated)
2 Tablespoons lemon juice
small pinch of salt
Flavoring and sweetener to taste

The ingredients shown here are induction-legal too!

**jake1970** · October 29, 2009, 03:37 PM

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thanks ill give that a try

**jake1970** · November 5, 2009, 11:33 AM

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why am i still getting the cramps HELP just sat watching tv last night and the cramps started in my thigh very painfull i was due to go to the gym this morning but couldnt again as cramps left me limping again,ive followed all that has been suggested im taking 500mg magnesium now 1000mg calcium just 99mg patassium but im eating more brocolli and advacados too ,also ive been drinking 3.5 litres of water ,the only thing that seems to keep them a way is crampex but really they are to take a night and ive been getting these cramps mainly late afternoon to early evening ,this is so frustrating i just want them to stop ,i feel great at my weight loss but these cramps are getting me down a bit now especially when they stop me going to the gym

i cant keep taking the crampex all the time
very fustrated

**Georgiana** · November 5, 2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by jake1970 View Post

why am i still getting the cramps HELP just sat watching tv last night and the cramps started in my thigh very painfull i was due to go to the gym this morning but couldnt again as cramps left me limping again,ive followed all that has been suggested im taking 500mg magnesium now 1000mg calcium just 99mg patassium but im eating more brocolli and advacados too ,also ive been drinking 3.5 litres of water ,the only thing that seems to keep them a way is crampex but really they are to take a night and ive been getting these cramps mainly late afternoon to early evening ,this is so frustrating i just want them to stop ,i feel great at my weight loss but these cramps are getting me down a bit now especially when they stop me going to the gym

i cant keep taking the crampex all the time
very fustrated

I don't remember everything that was said about cramps in your threads... but have you seen a doctor?

**barrnone** · November 5, 2009, 11:58 AM

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I've heard that boullion helps...?

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