Anyone doing the meat ........

[Heather150]

You're looking for a quick fix and we all know how those go!!!

Doing it for 3 days won't "kill" you...but once you go back to eating regular atkins again..you'll most likely gain back the "water" weight you lose with the fast because your glycogen supplies will fill back up when you reintroduce carbs in the form of veggies.

Atkins works....you're either tweaking it too much, or you're wanting faster results...which who doesn't..but its not realistic.

FASTS DON'T WORK IN THE LONG RUN!!!

Find a lifelong habit of good eating and monitoring...and you'll never regret it.

Do the fasts..and you'll forever be on the rollercoaster of scale he!!

Just my 2 cents!

[Elizellen]

Maysea - what was your start weight and how much did you lose in induction?
What was it that made you decide to go on this 'fast' only a couple of days after completing your 14-day induction?

[bnzstar]

Oh come on people! You can't tell me that none of you as a college student ate the same thing for three days in a row. NEWS FLASH I ate nothing but scrambled eggs for a week after I lost my job and guess what I didn't die!!!
I've also eaten cereal every meal for weeks at a time as well as cheese hot dogs and one time tuna sandwhiches. I didn't die.

It's fine to beg to differ with whether this is in line with Atkins or appropriate for weight loss purposes but to act like its going to instantly kill you or endanger someone's life is absurd! That person would have to be horribly unfit to begin with!

[shadewolf]

It's fine to beg to differ with whether this is in line with Atkins or appropriate for weight loss purposes but to act like its going to instantly kill you or endanger someone's life is absurd! That person would have to be horribly unfit to begin with!

well, a friend of mine did have someone up and die on her since he ate no carbs whatsoever and afterawhile - i think it was about a month - his body started burning his major organs and he basically withered away with that. all the organs failed on him as his body consumed them, so he died. that's the reason you don't want to have 0 carbs for an extended period of time. in Dandr they have a term for this condition "ketoacidosis" which is different than the ketosis we all strive for. so yeah, you could survive a couple weeks eating just meat and eggs, but the balance in your body will tip to a bad side. last time i checked, your body consuming your organs in an attempt to preserve itself is an unhealthy thing.

[cleochatra]

shadewolf is quite right. The body is not meant to subsist devoid of all carbohydrates. Even the old versions of Atkins had dieters eating a cup of salad a day for trace amounts of carbs, and then increased the carb amounts from there.

Going 0-carb is not a safe way to eat, and your body won't register a major difference between a "0-carb" diet and a 10-20 carb diet.

I hope you will reconsider doing this version of your perception of Atkins based on incorrect information from another board. :hug

{{{maysea}}}

[not2late]

Oh come on people! You can't tell me that none of you as a college student ate the same thing for three days in a row. NEWS FLASH I ate nothing but scrambled eggs for a week after I lost my job and guess what I didn't die!!!
I've also eaten cereal every meal for weeks at a time as well as cheese hot dogs and one time tuna sandwhiches. I didn't die.

Yeah I remember eating a bagel diet and a grape diet and a peanut-butter and jelly sandwich diet. While I didn't die, my general HEALTH took a hit from the nutrients I didn't get and from the weight I gained (which I'm still trying to lose.) So, yeah, why don't we all encourage Maysea to adopt lousy eating habits so his/her health can deteriorate even more?

Don't lose sight of the reason why Maysea and everyone else on this site is here: We're fat. We're unhealthy because we abused our bodies by feeding them lousy food and having lousy diet and lifestyle habits.

It would be HIGHLY irresponsible for anyone here to say "oh yeah go ahead risk your health even more with a hair-brained scheme to lose weight".

It's fine to beg to differ with whether this is in line with Atkins or appropriate for weight loss purposes but to act like its going to instantly kill you or endanger someone's life is absurd!

And you base your opinion on what scientific studies and which medical textbooks?

That person would have to be horribly unfit to begin with!

Again, we are all here on this site because we ARE unfit, we ARE unhealthy.

Also Maysea asked for information about this: we gave it. Whatever Maysea or anyone else chooses to ignore it fine, if not fine.

But as I said, it would be HIGHLY irresponsible for anyone here to advise someone to do something that is not conducive to their health.

[Pam_C]

Ok take it from me I am guilty as sin on this one. When I was first going to do "atkins" my mother in law told me how. She had the old book from her mother and a lot of pages were missing. So she said look just eat bacon eggs and meat and you'll be fine. I did. Now I say I did atkins 2 times this isn't one of those be cause If something said it had a carb in it I didn't eat it. BAD BAD BAD mistake. By the second day I was sick by the 5th day I didn't get out of bed no energy at all. I quit this stupid "diet" and finally found DANDR and realized why I felt that way. I actually lost a few pounds but gained it right back within 2 days because my body was holding on to everything. All the fat in the made me full fast and I wound up having more weight to lose when I got on the right track. I wouldn't do it again even in that short of a time it made me so sick. If you do this good luck to you is all I can say but it isn't a quick fix cause you may wind up gaining weight. Just telling you what happened to me.

[2big4mysize]

actually several fit folk died in the late 70s early 80s from doing protein fasts and congress investigated those liquid protein diets. In light of the medical evisence the manufactures suddenly changed their plans to include carbs and fats or they totally pulled their products off the market. that is one of the reasons you see on all the protein powders the disclaimer about them not being intended for weight loss program.

[selfxuntitled]

guilty.

i do it once in a while. well more than usual now cuz i stalled. i dont like veggies really. but i try going back

[moonwish]

I think that's what's called "rabbit starvation".

If protein-dense, extremely lean meats and seafood are your major sources of calories, you will get sick - with nausea, dairrhea, and weakness - because your body can't handle this much undiluted protein without something else, either fat or carbohydrate. Early Arctic explorers, trappers and frontiermen who had no choice but to eat the fat-depleted meat of game animals in the dregs of winter rapidly developed these same symptoms, frequently referred to as "rabbit starvation" or protein toxicity.
The problem, as shown in Dr. Daniel Rudman's laboratory at Emory University in Atlanta, is that liver can't effectively eliminate the nitrogen caused by the protein overload.

Of couse, probably no one will die in just 3 days... but sure it isn't healthy and sure you'll feel like crap. So why bother?

[maysea]

last time i checked, your body consuming your organs in an attempt to preserve itself is an unhealthy thing.



last time i checked i seem to have a lot of fat to be consumed first :eating

[spirittalker]

Unfortunately though the body will not choose to consume fat over muscle. Fat is harder to break down than muscle. If the body thinks it is starving it will choose to break down muscle in order to preserve the fat.

[maysea]

but isnt ketosis burning fat? :nod

check this out these people arent dying their losin weight fast and kicking

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=231302&highlight=kimmer

yes im on day 17 of induction dont no how much weight exactly i have lost as i dont weigh myself (mood not being controlled by a machine) but i no its a lot as my clothes are a lot loser
come on now if you could lose weight faster wouldnt you want to ?

give me some proof this is unhealthy

and dont anti low carb people think atkins is unhealthy?

10lb before goal i will slowly add a few carbs continueing until i find im no longer losing weight. and stick to that for life. :joy

[bnzstar]

Uh, I see your point. I don't see much legit science being thrown around just "I know someone...and I remember back in the 70's." Sometimes simple logic outweights that kind of so-called "science".

As I said, I don't encourage anyone to do this as weight loss on purpose but think about how many people in this country would be dead for simply eating the same amount of anything for just three days if all of what you are saying is true.

ANYTHING done in extreme measures , for a long period of time can kill you but three days of unhealthy eating is very unlikely unless you don't drink anything and dehydrate yourself. Think about it people, use your brains.

Anyway I personally am on this site to maintain steady weight loss. I am not unhealthy, I am not diabetic or have high blood pressure etc.... and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

All I'm saying is those extreme sounding the alarms are what makes people think Atkineers are dangering their lives for all the same "science" you are spewing forth.

[spirittalker]

The brain really does need carbs to survive and thrive. If your brain isn't working the rest of you isn't working. Yes ketosis is fat burning, but you don't have to be in a no carb diet to be in ketosis. And ketosis doesn't necessarily mean you are burning body fat. Just means fat burning. So if you are stuffing your face with fat you may just be burning dietary fat while catabalyzing muscle due to lack of glycogen to feed them. We are omnivores, our bodies need veggies just as much as our bodies need meat. In fact our bodies are built more like a herbivore than a carnivore. Please re read your DANDR. It sounds as if you are planning on eating this way until you are very close to goal. You should be moving through the rungs of OWL long before that.
I can't make you and if you choose to ignore the advise of everyone on the board that is your decision. But I would advise discussing this with your doctor and allow yourself to be monitored by the Doctor in order to stay safe. My doctor says low carb diets are great, no carb diets are not.