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  • #331
    Re: 2007 Read The Book Challenge

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    Originally Posted by brandywine1241
    I may be wrong, but didn't some of the oldest editions not require 3 cups of salad veggies as part of induction? That might explain why they didn't worry about distinguishing fiber carbs. Let me say, I'm only talking about fiber here. Sugar alcohols are a whole 'nother animal, and even though the 2002 book says they are OK on induction, I would advise anyone to go by Rule #5 - "Eat nothing that is not on the acceptable foods list."

    Originally posted by jimmie 48
    brandy, i'm not sure, as my memory for some things isn't as good as it use to be but what i can remember from 1975 was 20 grams of carbs on induction, eat nothing that is not on the list (those two things for sure) and if memory serves me, the two different lists of veggies where there. i seem to be thinking that the rules of induction were very much the same if not identical, except for the subtraction of the of the fiber.

    i'm glad you mentioned about sugar alcohols. mostly where i have found them was in ice cream, candy and that sort of thing. nothing that is induction friendly.
    The original 1972 book only required one week of Induction and you were only allowed 10 grams of carbs from salad--not a long list. It was very strict--you weren't even allowed spinach (or tomatoes or onions). Many times when a member tells someone that tomatoes and onions are not allowed on Induction, it's because they are going by the old book.

    Sunny!
    People who say it can't be done, should not interrupt those doing it.


    "Some men give up their designs when they have almost reached the goal; While others, on the contrary, obtain a victory by exerting, at the last moment, more vigorous efforts than ever before."
    ~~Herodotus


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    • #332
      Re: 2007 Read The Book Challenge

      good discussions going on! i'm thankful at this point that we are using the 2002 edition. i'm like bio in that i didn't realize how different the versions are.

      thanks for bringing those facts to the table, sunny.

      heidi, don't let this confuse you. what we need to know is what the 2002 edition tells us. the other stuff is good discussion but won't have bearing on what we do here on this board.


      i've started on part three and have chapter 20 read. i'm so very thankful that i have not had to deal with the things in this chapter. taking off 40 + plus pounds was hard enough and my heart just aches for those members that are on medications and have lots and lots of pounds to lose. it must get extremely frustrating.
      JIMMIE JOHNSON ~ NASCAR SPRINT CUP CHAMPION 2006-2009
      4th STRAIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP

      JUST BECAUSE IT'S LEGAL DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN EAT 3 HELPINGS OF IT. REMEMBER PORTION CONTROL

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      • #333
        Re: 2007 Read The Book Challenge

        Due to having to "rest" my knee my reading is done & the last question on the homework has me stumped. Of course I stayed up last night trying to find the answer & only frustrated myself. Plenty of time to figure it out.

        Chapter 21 is my favorite chapter. My weight problem stemmed from emotion. I use to eat to stuff down my feelings of anger & frustration. This chapter just speaks the truth to me...I think the whole chapter is highlighted. I turn to it often if I'm struggling or just need reassurance. As with the whole book I really feel this chapter is vital to success in this WOE/WOL.

        At Thanksgiving Dinner we always share something we are thankful for. This year my response will be ADBB!!!

        Glenda
        "You always had it. You always had the power."~~ Glinda the Good Witch

        Glenda
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        • #334
          Re: 2007 Read The Book Challenge

          Originally posted by gmitroff
          Due to having to "rest" my knee my reading is done & the last question on the homework has me stumped. Of course I stayed up last night trying to find the answer & only frustrated myself. Plenty of time to figure it out.

          Chapter 21 is my favorite chapter. My weight problem stemmed from emotion. I use to eat to stuff down my feelings of anger & frustration. This chapter just speaks the truth to me...I think the whole chapter is highlighted. I turn to it often if I'm struggling or just need reassurance. As with the whole book I really feel this chapter is vital to success in this WOE/WOL.

          At Thanksgiving Dinner we always share something we are thankful for. This year my response will be ADBB!!!

          Glenda
          well lo and behold, becky got a question out of order. lol she did just like me!
          check that favorite chapter of yours and you'll find your answer!

          i will go back to the the puzzle page and edit things.

          i've gotten through 21 and my homework is finished although i need to continue reading. i just fill in the blanks as i come to 'em!

          i've jotted down notes but i'm waiting till tomorrow to post the things that jumped out at me. y'all can post away!
          Last edited by jimmie 48; November 19, 2007, 04:12 PM.
          JIMMIE JOHNSON ~ NASCAR SPRINT CUP CHAMPION 2006-2009
          4th STRAIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP

          JUST BECAUSE IT'S LEGAL DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN EAT 3 HELPINGS OF IT. REMEMBER PORTION CONTROL

          What I Just Earned..

          Current Challenges.....

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          • #335
            Re: 2007 Read The Book Challenge

            I think that when I did Atkins the very first time, I had 40net carbs a day on induction... this was around 1999 (I think) and I must have really been eating up the carbs prior to that because in 3 months I lost nearly 30 lbs!! thinking on it now, I must not have ever gotten myself into Ketosis either.

            Now I get headaches in the evenings every day, and I know that I am in ketosis... if I don't have that headache, I know that I've overdone the carbs somewhere.

            And I don't recall having made a big deal out of veggies... I think my diet mainly consisted of meat and cheese that entire time! (YIKES!) I'm glad that the "rules" have changed and veggies are a big part of the carb intake now...

            I'm much further behind in my reading than I intended to be!! I've got a meeting tomorrow morning, but I'm going to attempt to dedicate the afternoon to getting caught up. We'll see how it goes. I've got the homework all printed out, so I can work on it as I go along.
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            • #336
              Re: 2007 Read The Book Challenge

              Yikes, I just noticed that the answers are there for part 2!! I'm going to go ahead and print out the Third set of questions (and ignore those part 2 answers for now!!)
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              • #337
                Re: 2007 Read The Book Challenge

                Originally posted by gmitroff
                At Thanksgiving Dinner we always share something we are thankful for. This year my response will be ADBB!!!

                Glenda
                You can say that again and again!!! I am so thankful for this whole forum. I am extra glad that I joined this challenge. Even though I have read and read several of the books, this is the first time I have read every word, every chapter, front to back. It is re-inspiring me and giving me a second wind! I have been spinning my wheels for so long, and even though I have lost 120 pounds, I still have a very long way to go. I am inspired by every challenge I belong to and by every thread in which I participate. I even started some gentle exercise over a week early! Shhhhhh! Don't tell my doc! I am now testing recipes and plan to have an absolutely awesome LEGAL Thanksgiving! I love you all!!!

                My Hero!


                Sunny!
                People who say it can't be done, should not interrupt those doing it.


                "Some men give up their designs when they have almost reached the goal; While others, on the contrary, obtain a victory by exerting, at the last moment, more vigorous efforts than ever before."
                ~~Herodotus


                Doin' the "Real Deal" Atkins 2002 since 9/15/2005
                Sunny's Secrets: My Journal



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                • #338
                  Re: 2007 Read The Book Challenge

                  Thanks for the hint Jimmie! I had a feeling the answer was in Chapter 21!

                  Glenda
                  "You always had it. You always had the power."~~ Glinda the Good Witch

                  Glenda
                  F/5'10/47
                  261/xxx/???
                  "Happiness is a habit~cultivate it." Elbert Hubbard
                  "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results." Albert Einstein

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                  • #339
                    Re: 2007 Read The Book Challenge

                    I finished reading part 3 today. It was much shorter than part 2. Also, my hometown doctor didn't send my lab results to the hemotologist, so I had to wait for a while.

                    I'll probably review it again this week and finish the homework. I enjoyed the part about writing down reasons for doing Atkins, results, and is it worth staying with it for a lifetime. I was writing down some of those when I got interrupted, so going to finish doing that. I think I'll post them in my bathroom where I get ready. Better to start the day reminding myself of why I'm doing this than to forget and go off track. I'll discuss more later, kinda tired tonight.
                    Caryl
                    Start 2/21/2007 212
                    CW 6/22/2008 167
                    Goal 124
                    F 49 yo

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                    • #340
                      Re: 2007 Read The Book Challenge

                      Homework is done! Put the part about asking people to respect your needs to work last night. My mom is coming here for Turkey Day & usually asks me to make all the traditional stuff. She asked for pumpkin pie. I asked her if a crustless pumpkin bake was okay...her comment was "As long as it has pumpkin in it & I can have whipped cream you can make whatever you want." Gotta love mom!
                      Have a great holiday everyone!
                      Glenda
                      "You always had it. You always had the power."~~ Glinda the Good Witch

                      Glenda
                      F/5'10/47
                      261/xxx/???
                      "Happiness is a habit~cultivate it." Elbert Hubbard
                      "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results." Albert Einstein

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                      • #341
                        Re: 2007 Read The Book Challenge

                        i will be very hit and miss today. it's my anniversary day and i'm spending the day with jack. keep reading, keep jotting notes and i'll catch up!
                        JIMMIE JOHNSON ~ NASCAR SPRINT CUP CHAMPION 2006-2009
                        4th STRAIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP

                        JUST BECAUSE IT'S LEGAL DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN EAT 3 HELPINGS OF IT. REMEMBER PORTION CONTROL

                        What I Just Earned..

                        Current Challenges.....

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                        • #342
                          Re: 2007 Read The Book Challenge

                          Originally posted by jimmie 48
                          i will be very hit and miss today. it's my anniversary day and i'm spending the day with jack. keep reading, keep jotting notes and i'll catch up!
                          Happy anniversary! You and Jack have a wonderful one! How many years???

                          Sunny!
                          People who say it can't be done, should not interrupt those doing it.


                          "Some men give up their designs when they have almost reached the goal; While others, on the contrary, obtain a victory by exerting, at the last moment, more vigorous efforts than ever before."
                          ~~Herodotus


                          Doin' the "Real Deal" Atkins 2002 since 9/15/2005
                          Sunny's Secrets: My Journal



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                          • #343
                            Re: 2007 Read The Book Challenge

                            HAPPY ANNIVERSARY JIMMIE!!!
                            Before and after:






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                            • #344
                              Re: 2007 Read The Book Challenge

                              Me too!!!! Happy anniversary.

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                              • #345
                                Re: 2007 Read The Book Challenge

                                Styill haven't started reading yet for this week. I did print the homework though!

                                I hope you're having a terrific anniversary Jimmie!

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