Thorns Trials

[Desertthorn]

Finelly posted that if we were having problems that we needed to set ourself up a post and I thought WOW, thats a cool idea. I have been having problems losing. Actually, I haven't lost a pound in weeks/months/a very long time.
One of the medications that I take is on Dr Atkins, Dr Schwarzbein, Dr Sears lists of no nos. They all, to a doctor, said that beta blockers block more than betas (?) But I have lost 50 pounds going from 270 to 220 and now back up to 230. But then I quit losing. Nothing Nana, Zilch for months and after a while, you descide that okay, something is wrong, I need to try something else. I decided Dr Schwarzbein, still low carb. Didn't work, gained a few pounds. I decided low GI, worse, but, let me tell you, eat a carb and your lost for ever, all you do is crave carbs more and more. Gained more
Then I decided what this board needed was a Second Time Around Club and Tom, bless his heart agreed and this is were I hang out.
Well I just got back from the doctor. I have kidney infection, and he wants me to drink cranberry juice, (there is no sugar free in Japan) eat yogurt (Im trying to do a clean induction) and the only Atkins friendly thing he did say was drink plenty of water.
So back to square one.
Sometimes I feel that Im taking one step forward and two steps back.
I have been walking though, every day, in the humidity and heat, I have walked and yesterday the curbs felt like mountains that I had to climb, but I think that was the fever.
I am absolutely going to do this.

[Terry]

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Desert, I have not been in your shoes with that kind of stall. Sure wish I had some magical words of advise.

But first thing you need to do is get rid of that infection and I guess if it means drink cranberry juice (instead are there cranberry supplements that would work just as well.............and would they have carbs?) Is the low carb yogurt available to you there? It still has the active cultures that are in the regular stuff.

If you can just get thru the infection as gently as possible to a low carb lifestyle then go to back to a full fledged induction that would be the way to cause the least amount of damage.

I am going to do some research on this for you and see what I can dig up.

Hang in there and heres a for good measure!

T

[shelbyquinn03079]

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I recently had a Kidney Infection from a UTI that I tried to treat with Cranberry Juice. My doctor told me that is a myth. But my point is that once it turned into a kidney infection I needed an antibiotic. Did he give you one or did he just tell you to use those home remedies?

[Terry]

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Boy Desert

I googled and yahood and cant find anything else to help with that infection other that what I originally listed. The cranberry tablets came up a lot. (Besides lots of ads for 'miracle" cures for the problem) Are you someone that has trouble with yeast? Could yeast maybe the culprit for you with the weight loss issues as well?

I havent read a lot on this but just last night I was reading a post by........ cant remember her name, but it was a sticky in the yeast forum about the KISS diet.............. eliminating all foods like cheese/mushrooms etc to get your system back into shape and free of yeast.

[Terry]

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How are you feeling today Desert?

[DebbietheHugBug]

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Desert, my heart goes out to you and I REALLY admire your committment to this WOL even though you're not having the progress you want.


If you have to take an antibiotic, it would be a good idea to take a probiotic with it. Something like Acidipholis. Antibiotics kick up the bad yeast inside of us but the probiotic will make it less bad.

Once you kick this, see how your progress goes when you get back on plan. If you're still not having any success, it might be wise to do the spit test for candida.

I say this because I had glanced on that board for awhile just to find out what it is. I took the basic quizzes but the symptoms I have are the same symptoms as menopause. So I blew it off, went off of Premarin and take over the counter stuff. I'm miserable.. LOL Then one day I was curious so I did the spit test and discovered I have the candida. I'm going to have my fight with it after I get back from our family reunion next weekend.

You have been at this longer than I have (and some of us here) so you know your body better than we do. We are NOT giving up on you!!!! Stay the course, do what you have to do to get well. We are here for you and we aren't going anywhere!

[Desertthorn]

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I recently had a Kidney Infection from a UTI that I tried to treat with Cranberry Juice. My doctor told me that is a myth. But my point is that once it turned into a kidney infection I needed an antibiotic. Did he give you one or did he just tell you to use those home remedies?

No, Im on a strong antibiotic. 2big has told me that cranberry juice is just a myth, but it really helps my UTI when I get them. But, Dr Pillpusher also told me that the reason that I probably got the kidney infection was because it travelled up from the bladder, so so much for "heal thyself".
You guys rock

[Desertthorn]

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Boy Desert

I googled and yahood and cant find anything else to help with that infection other that what I originally listed. The cranberry tablets came up a lot. (Besides lots of ads for 'miracle" cures for the problem) Are you someone that has trouble with yeast? Could yeast maybe the culprit for you with the weight loss issues as well?

I havent read a lot on this but just last night I was reading a post by........ cant remember her name, but it was a sticky in the yeast forum about the KISS diet.............. eliminating all foods like cheese/mushrooms etc to get your system back into shape and free of yeast.

Thanks Terry, your the best. I did do the spit test once and it came up negative, but maybe when I get rid of all this infection Ill try again.

[Desertthorn]

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Thanks Debbie, your the best. I think thats why Dr Pillpusher told me to take the yogurt. I live in Japan so finding anything in pill form is nearly impossible.

Desert, my heart goes out to you and I REALLY admire your committment to this WOL even though you're not having the progress you want.


If you have to take an antibiotic, it would be a good idea to take a probiotic with it. Something like Acidipholis. Antibiotics kick up the bad yeast inside of us but the probiotic will make it less bad.

Once you kick this, see how your progress goes when you get back on plan. If you're still not having any success, it might be wise to do the spit test for candida.

I say this because I had glanced on that board for awhile just to find out what it is. I took the basic quizzes but the symptoms I have are the same symptoms as menopause. So I blew it off, went off of Premarin and take over the counter stuff. I'm miserable.. LOL Then one day I was curious so I did the spit test and discovered I have the candida. I'm going to have my fight with it after I get back from our family reunion next weekend.

You have been at this longer than I have (and some of us here) so you know your body better than we do. We are NOT giving up on you!!!! Stay the course, do what you have to do to get well. We are here for you and we aren't going anywhere!

[Desertthorn]

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Good Day,
Well, I don't feel any better, but as my friend pointed out "it hasn't been 24 hours yet and I've only had one dose.
Breakfast:
I very carefully had 1/3 cup of yogurt, plain, low fat (thats all I can get around her), and a hard boiled egg for breakfasts.
I walked to work, about a Km, and will walk home and back at lunch and after work. I am determined to make this work this time and will.

[Terry]

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Hey Desert you will do this and it will work this time and Ill be there with ya! Hopefully this nasty infection will clear up asap and you can continue on your plans for a strict induction. You are doing the right thing now by focusing on the problem and trying to maintain the program as best you can.

Thinkin of ya!
T

[elfish99]

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Hi Desert, I'm sorry you're having such a hard time. I've had my share of kidney infections so I know they can make you feel pretty aweful. I"ve tried cranberry juice too and I don't know if it's a myth but it's never really done anything for me and the amout of sugar in it probably makes it worse because I think the yeast feed off of sugar. I've begun taking acidophilus every day and a tsp. of coconut oil in my coffe in the morning. I've read that it gives you energy as well as being an antiviral and helps to combat yeast. Keep drinking your water! I know that if I don't drink enough water, i can bring on an infection. I have to keep my system flushed out.

Hope you feel better soon!

[Finelly]

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How's it going today, hon? I hope you are drinking your weight in water, which will flush those bacteria right out of kidneys and bladder.

Hang in there! We're with you in spirit.

[DebbietheHugBug]

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Coconut oil in coffee?? How does it taste? I'll try anything once!


Desert, how are you doing? It will take the antibiotics a day or two to start working. Hang in there. Pretty soon you'll be all better and then you're gonna kick our Atkin's butts on this WOL!!!

[2big4mysize]

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well actually I didn't say it was a myth I said the study was done on pure cranberry juice which altered the urine pH and helped kill the bacteria but the juice cocktails stuff in the store isn't pure so you will not get the same effect. you could just EAT cranberries if you were an OWler raw garlic helps as does blueberries since they have a chemical that makes it hard for the bacteria to stick to the walls of your bladder.

the biggest help you can give yourselves is to prevent it in the first place and that is really a matter of personel hygine both yours and your partners as the bacteria swim up from the opening the pee comes out to the bladder not come from inside your body to the bladder. Urine from a healthy kidney is sterile until it comes into contact with bacteria somewhere in your urinary tract. So wash before sex both you and him and wipe from the front to the back not back to the froont after you pee.