Something I never understood about Atkins...

[sofarsogood]

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So we all went in with out eyes wide open, right? if you don't like the result of your sudden fluid weight gain then wean off Atkins or stop cheating

This is probably one of the main reasons I am sticking to the program so faithfully. I know that if I cheat I WILL gain (even if it is only water). On the other programs I would think "Oh well, if I cheat it won't be all that bad. I'll just start over tommorrow". Then that one day would lead to 3 months. With Atkins I know that even one day of cheating will set me way back.

[gazaleh]

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^^Wait till you get to goal. Then that 1 day will set you back alright. Set you back with muscle aches, bloat, cramps. On atkins when you play, you REALLY gotta PAY.

[2big4mysize]

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I am at goal and have been for over two yrs, betty TTDRIVER has been for over 4 yrs you can wean off Atkins if you dislike the havijng to stay cheat free but then you will be a calorie counting slave to maintain your weight loss eating at a 25% lower cal intake they you are now cause that is about the difference in metabolism you are going to get switching to high carb low fat.

I'm not understanding why you are so set on cheating. Check out our recipe forum and see all the great legal stuff you can have if you want it.


oh and for our rhubard lover in this topic you really need to reread chapter 11 food list cause rhubard is an induction veggie and you can have Atkins legal rhubarb pie any day you want it.

[Sheshy]

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Originally Posted by gazaleh
You people attacking others is just like those low calorie advocates getting on your backs. In fact, I have never in my life been so attacked by low calorie, WW or Jenny Craig followers as Atkins followers.What GIVES?An adult debate is more appreciated.



Quoted by winthorp69
Will you listen to her when she requests this since it's not coming from me (and she's female)? I've been asking for this since page 2.


This isn't a personal attack on anyone. It's a group of people disagreeing with you. And as far as I can see, other than asking for clarity..this is an adult debate, there are just more people on the Atkins side of the debate.

[gazaleh]

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Most of those recipes have artificial sweetners. And don't even get me started on those. If I am at a party, I am not going to ask someone to bake me a splenda laden dessert. And yes I want to eat normal food once in a while without dire consequences.

[2big4mysize]

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who said you had to force your hosts to do it??

you can make one yourself and bring it if you need to celebrate the food. Me when I attend a party I call first and offer to bring legal foods if none are availble. I've never had anyone turn down free food but if you do then you can decide to eat before you arrive bring a snack for yourself. After all parties are about the love and friendship you share with family and friends not the food you do or don't eat.

[not2late]

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Sofarsogood.....Ahhhhhhhhhhhh so refreshing. A different point of view. I share this experience with MANY others. If it's an allergy, then how come it never happened on a low calorie plan?????

I feel like I am a slave now to low carbing. I can't get out. Don't get me wrong, it's fairly healthy but my body has morphed into a messed up entity.

Because you never noticed how the trigger food was affecting you before. That's what happened in my case with wheat. I was eating whole wheat bread and pasta daily, but I never connected the wheat as the cause for my worsening asthma and my persistent 'seasonal' allergies. But when I removed the offending food from my diet and tried to re-introduce it, it was plainfully obvious that it was a problem.

Bloating/water retention can be due to your body's immune system trying to fight off an invading substance. Inflammation is your body walling off infection by superhydrating the surrounding tissues. That's why if you have a food sensitivity, your stomach will bloat---due to the inflammation. That's why if you have hayfever your nose becomes stuffy, again, it's inflammation.

If I eat a piece of whole wheat bread, I'll start wheezing. Wheezing is caused by the airtubes in my lungs contracting and due to inflammation. I've tried this before to see if it was really inflammation/allergic response to the wheat. I've eaten a piece of whole wheat bread. Waited for the wheezing, then I took an inhaler that only relaxes the muscles in my lungs. The wheezing persists. However, if I take a steroid, the wheezing goes away. Steroids decrease inflammation.

So it could possibly be that when you were eating those foods, 5-10 pounds of your weight was due to a food sensitivity to one or several of those foods. Since you ate them regularly or regularly enough to maintain those 5-10 pounds, you wouldn't notice that the food(s) were the causes. Just like me when my asthma and allergies were getting worse and I was eating whole wheat. I've always have eaten wheat so why should I even suspect it was the cause?

So from my point of view, my former body was totally screwed up and it has become a more normal one in terms of weight and in terms of general health.

[gazaleh]

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^That does sound like a possibility actually.When we're constantly eating what we want, we aren't aware of which foods agree with us .On Atkins, we are eating more "pure" and can pick up on these intolerances. Perhaps I do have an intolerance to wheat or maybe sugar..

[ValidRouge]

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Gazaleh,

One other thing you may want to consider....

The reason the majority of us are here on Atkins is because we want to lose weight. There are some who are here solely for the benefit of controlling their blood sugar and cholesterol levels.

Think about this...eating those "normal" foods are what got us overweight in the first place right? They arethe reason we needed to go on Atkins and be here to begin with. If you return to eating those foods, doesn't it make sense that your body would return to hoarding fat stores on your abdomen hips and thighs again?

Not2late makes a VERY valid point...you could have food intolerances that are causing water retention. Food intolerances you never knew you had. That's the whole point of adding foods back in one at a time during the OWL phase, so that you can identify those foods. Some foods cause water retention, some foods cause us to crave, some foods may make you gassy, bloaty, itchy, whatever. I realized that one of my favorite foods (mango) made me break out in hives!!!

[gazaleh]

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Can someone please list the most commonly allergenic foods/intolerances? What have been your experiences? I know wheat,eggs,peanuts,fish and soy are some common ones. What are others?

[Sheshy]

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I found a list of common foods that can trigger allergies:
Chocolate
Gluten
Corn
Seafood
Milk
Soy
Peanut Allergy
Inulin
Eggs
Sesame

And here's a webmd link to information on food intolerances vs. food allergies.

[2big4mysize]

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this is the list the FDA uses since 90% of the reactions are to them (A) eight major foods or food groups--milk, eggs, fish, Crustacean shellfish, tree nuts, peanuts, wheat, and soybeans

[G-Mom]

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Are you reading the other posts?

I'm being PERSONALLY attacked after attacking no one and you have problems with ME?

What I meant was that you are intentionally stirring up trouble then making people feel bad for defending Atkins and then crying "I am innocent and totally an Atkineer!" Passive-aggressive and socially inept. Sorry.

[IrishIrish]

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People assume that we've all happened along to this Atkins bulletin board and jumped on board because we want to eat steak and butter and bacon. That may be why some joined, but I took the approach far more seriously. I read the book, I read additional studies, I read the pros and the cons. I discussed it at length with my physician. And I had made approximately 50-60 other attempts at dieting throughout my lifetime. I'm sure that I have lost and gained more than many people could even guess if they tried.

My educational background is chemistry, pharmacy and mathematics. So, I had a little bit of a headstart and found the science appealing. I knew my health factors when I began and knew where I was headed. Two years later, despite some medical ups and downs due to an accident that has sidelined me for sometime now, I'm better off than I was when I started. No more insulin shots twice a day, eliminated one of my oral medications for diabetes and decreased the other. HmgA1C of 5.1. BP within normal range. No more inhalers for my chronic bronchitis. Doing quite well thank you very much.

I'm a bit more than a flash in the pan. I don't gravitate toward bacon and steak but more to seafood and chicken with occasional beef or pork. I eat lots of veggies. I eat cheeses and eggs and other lean meats like Canadian Bacon. I use olive oil in my cooking. I eat fruits like berries which are lower on the glycemic index. I enjoy fine dining experiences and love the cooperation we see from the restaurant community in the same way that I may have had to request accomodations for my diabetes. A favorite of mine is Asian food and I continue to enjoy the flavors. I eat healthy Mexican foods flavors. I tailor many of my own recipes to use in current cooking for me and my husband. And I've been able to do it without falling dreadfully off the wagon and have moved gradually up through OWL determining what foods work best for me to continue my weight loss.

So, it can be done. I expect to continue because I don't look at Atkins as restrictive in any way. I see it as a far more freeing experience than any of the myriad of "diets" I've followed in the past. To me, Atkins is a great solution for me and one that has shown my primary care physician, internist and endocrinologist that it can work well and results in healthy outcomes.

[winthorp69]

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you keep saying healthy non Atkins at maintenace we keep telling you to check the book

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