2009 Read The Book Challenge

[Bizzie]

Re: 2009 Read The Book Challenge

Count me in please!!!

[jimmie 48]

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i have read to the end of chapter 16.

i was reading part of it like i'd never seen it before. i suspect it's been too long since i read that particular part.

Some Variations on the Rule

Another approach to Pre-Maintenance is to continue eating as you were at the end of OWL and to allow yourself a 20-gram carb treat two or three times a week. Add a piece of fruit or a starchy vegetable-a serving of brown rice or sweet potatoes, for example. You can also have a glass of white wine, a light beer or the white spirits. You could get more adventurous with some of the excellent controlled carbohydrate convenience foods that are increasingly available. Or, if your metabolic resistance is at the low end, you may be able to enjoy such treats more frequently.
Still another way to do Pre-Maintenance is to average out your carb intake for the week. This is how it works: If, for example, your CCLL is 80 grams, you might drop back to 60 grams on Tuesday, then deviate with a beef, potato and carrot stew the following night, pushing your daily total to 100 grams. (Up until now, when weight loss was essential, I have told you to spread your carbs out through the day. If you do have a heavy dose at one meal, make sure there is enough fat, protein and fiber in the rest of the meal to slow the glucose load on your system.) However, if you find such deviations create cravings, it is probably best for you to stick to a steady number of carbs spread evenly throughout the day.

pre maintenance can be done several different ways according to that.
i believe that even though i feel like i am maintaining, i really am at the premaintenance level. meaning that if i lose a few pounds, that's cool and if not, i'm okay with that too. it's very close to either or, if you know what i mean. anyway, i know, for the most part, that i did not add 10 carbs [power of ten] but proceeded the way i have highlighted in blue.

like i said, it was like i was reading that for the first time.

[jimmie 48]

Re: 2009 Read The Book Challenge

Count me in please!!!

you are going to have some busy reading days miss bizzie! i'm not one to turn anybody away for most things and i won't for this, it's too important.

so do your best to catch up. we are reading part 2 this week but i want you to start at part 1 so you get the whole book by the end of the challenge.

[Bizzie]

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I am a really fast reader, I;ll be caught up in no time

[barrnone]

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I'm in Chapter 15 ... we have Thyroid issues in the family, so looking forward to reading this chapter! I did like the list in Chapter 14 - Power of Five - really helped me 'visualize' the 5 gram portions; will come in handy since I just started OWL.

[Georgiana]

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I'm in Chapter 15 ... we have Thyroid issues in the family, so looking forward to reading this chapter! I did like the list in Chapter 14 - Power of Five - really helped me 'visualize' the 5 gram portions; will come in handy since I just started OWL.

Those are 5 g of total carbohydrate though, not 5 net carbs. For things like diary or nuts it doesn't matter, but for veggies and fruits, it does.

[RosieC]

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What's with the "one-week induction menu" on pp 232-235? There are plenty of things there that are not on the induction foods list, like "controlled carb strawberry shake", whatever that may be, and "zucchini nut bread" which is in the recipe section and includes almonds.

I agree with Jo,* it would be good if there was a bit more about OWL ... and a bit less about induction. Having another chapter about induction (ch 18 ) between lifetime maintenance and "eating in the real world" doesn't seem necessary at all ... no wonder people end up thinking Atkins is only induction.

OK, rant over ... everything except ch 18 is great



* Edit: I can't find that post now, maybe it wasn't Jo or wasn't in this thread, or both ...

[sporty]

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Almost done with part 2 - I will post questions and comments later as I am out the door....

[jimmie 48]

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done with chapter 14 but have to scoot to work.

i will add this note though. after such a long cheerleading section and then the particulars of induction, i truely do wish he would have spent more time on OWL. that is the phase where most people lose it.

I agree with Jo,* it would be good if there was a bit more about OWL ... and a bit less about induction. Having another chapter about induction (ch 18 ) between lifetime maintenance and "eating in the real world" doesn't seem necessary at all ... no wonder people end up thinking Atkins is only induction.

OK, rant over ... everything except ch 18 is great

* Edit: I can't find that post now, maybe it wasn't Jo or wasn't in this thread, or both ...

it was me and there it is.

What's with the "one-week induction menu" on pp 232-235? There are plenty of things there that are not on the induction foods list, like "controlled carb strawberry shake", whatever that may be, and "zucchini nut bread" which is in the recipe section and includes almonds.

this is something that has addressed in other challenges. i can only tell you what others have reported and that is this:
when it came to the menu part, other 'staff' [i'll call them staff] did the menus, did some editing and so on. dr. a probably should've, could've but didn't go over things with a fine tooth comb. i would still adhere to what the induction list of allowable foods is telling us and not the menu plan listed in that section.

and i agree, the repeat of induction being placed so much later in the book can be confusing. at the very least, it looks out of place to me.

[jimmie 48]

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like sporty, i'm off and running. i've finished chapter 17 and have done some soul searching.
being 5 pounds over my goal is the limit and that is where i find myself.
i've been watching g's journal [in the Journal Stats Forum] and she is continueing to list trigger foods and combinations of foods. reading her posts, reading the book and being at my top limit above goal has brought me to these conclusions:
1. time to get rid of at 3 of those pounds, 5 if i can.
2. no more homemade wheat bread. i know what's in it but that still might be a problem.

i have 1/2 loaf left of my bread but it made it's way to the freezer this morning.

[RosieC]

Re: 2009 Read The Book Challenge

this is something that has addressed in other challenges. i can only tell you what others have reported and that is this:
when it came to the menu part, other 'staff' [i'll call them staff] did the menus, did some editing and so on. dr. a probably should've, could've but didn't go over things with a fine tooth comb. i would still adhere to what the induction list of allowable foods is telling us and not the menu plan listed in that section.

and i agree, the repeat of induction being placed so much later in the book can be confusing. at the very least, it looks out of place to me.

Yes I expect you are right about that. I was disappointed with the recipe section when I first got the book, because it had so many recipes containing Atkins (R) Bake Mix etc. I suppose they wanted to work that into the induction menus too. The recipes in the first edition are much better IMO.

Anyway, I came in to report that I have finished part 2

[gumby87]

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Hi, gang!

I've still got to finish up chapter 19-eating in the real world. Hope it has some good tips in it!

I am headed out in the morning for a trip to Vegas (I plan to stay on the program and come back without any added poundage!) I won't get back until the 28th, so hopefully it will be ok for me to say I've finished reading section 2 at that time. I will also get reading on the next section while on the plane.

Thanks and have a great weekend!

[imagood1]

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finished chapter 15 just before this post. Will finish the section tonight.

[mizski]

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Finished Part 2 last night.

I still find the OWL writings confusing. I'm not clear about the Power of Five at all meaning why are those foods listed in 5g TOTAL carbs when all along we've been counting net carbs. What IS the purpose of the Power of Five then?

OK, that's all I can write right now as my dinner is ready. Be back to post more...

[wvfireboss]

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Finished part 2 today. I did see a few things that I had missed the first reading.
and yes Jimmie I have saw a reduction in my cholestrol (from total chol of around 200 down 119 the last work up) and BP in the 120/70 range.