Re: ~*~*~Vidiot's House of Pain -Part Deux!~*~*~
Floydgirl (I swear, I always read that as "Flodygirl") - Here's a response from the Beachbody Fitness Advisor in the FAQ on muscle pain and lactic acid build up:
DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness) is caused by microtrauma. Lactic acid is the waste product of anaerobic work. If you don't work anaerobically than you won't breakdown as much muscle fiber and won't be a sore. So it's associated, but not caused, by lactic acid. Since all strength gains are made anaerobically this process is a vital aspect of your training. However, it is only one aspect.
Lactic acid does reduce your body's capacity of endurance because its accumulation will destroy capillaries. Base aerobic work builds capillaries. This is why many people don't like to train different systems simulataniously and why periodizational training is most effective.
To answer your question, you should not always be sore after a workout. It's not an indicator of a good workout, though it will happen at times during every training cycle. In fact, if you are always sore something is wrong. Your body adapts to new routines, gets better, and you don't get sore. You usually get the most sore in an adaptive phase. During a strength (or growth) phase you will get less sore to not sore at all. This is not an indicator that you need to increase intensity. You'll still make gains along the strength curve while you aren't getting sore. In fact, this last phase, when you are pushing hard and not getting sore, are when the greatest gains are made. This is called a peak. It's what you're aiming for. Athletes train in order to peak. Howevever, it's always fleeting. Meaning that you will adapt to this stress and, eventually (weeks, not months) you will level out (plateau, in graphic lingo) and need to alter what you do or move on to train a different energy system.
So soreness is an effect of training but not something you should use as an indicator of a good workout.
Floydgirl (I swear, I always read that as "Flodygirl") - Here's a response from the Beachbody Fitness Advisor in the FAQ on muscle pain and lactic acid build up:
DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness) is caused by microtrauma. Lactic acid is the waste product of anaerobic work. If you don't work anaerobically than you won't breakdown as much muscle fiber and won't be a sore. So it's associated, but not caused, by lactic acid. Since all strength gains are made anaerobically this process is a vital aspect of your training. However, it is only one aspect.
Lactic acid does reduce your body's capacity of endurance because its accumulation will destroy capillaries. Base aerobic work builds capillaries. This is why many people don't like to train different systems simulataniously and why periodizational training is most effective.
To answer your question, you should not always be sore after a workout. It's not an indicator of a good workout, though it will happen at times during every training cycle. In fact, if you are always sore something is wrong. Your body adapts to new routines, gets better, and you don't get sore. You usually get the most sore in an adaptive phase. During a strength (or growth) phase you will get less sore to not sore at all. This is not an indicator that you need to increase intensity. You'll still make gains along the strength curve while you aren't getting sore. In fact, this last phase, when you are pushing hard and not getting sore, are when the greatest gains are made. This is called a peak. It's what you're aiming for. Athletes train in order to peak. Howevever, it's always fleeting. Meaning that you will adapt to this stress and, eventually (weeks, not months) you will level out (plateau, in graphic lingo) and need to alter what you do or move on to train a different energy system.
So soreness is an effect of training but not something you should use as an indicator of a good workout.


Prior to starting these vidiot challenges, I did a lot of heavy weight lifting. Maybe that has something to do with it. Now yesterday I was a little stiff all day after the workout. This morning I feel just fine! I must be crazy -- here I'm upset because I am not sore
I guess I wanted to feel the pain. I am a glutton for punishment I guess.
This is not the right TOM for me to weigh myself, but I couldn't resist. My clothes all feel exactly the same, so I guess its water retention.




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