Hi... no one should be getting bent out of shape for getting slapped. No matter how many strict cheat police are on this board, I'm sure there will still be a full spectrum of "slip up" (AKA Cheat) responses that people posting, as well as just reading posts, will run across. I saw one earlier today, that person obviously is unaware (so far) of this thread and all its implications. It was in the Halloween 10 lb challenge, and was your run-of-the-mill "cheating doesn't matter" variety.
So start recruiting some deputies, and lets see some slappin' action!
For the last hour I've been trying not to be offended. I originally agreed with this thread, thinking it was a good idea. And I'm still certain most of it was intended the right way, including this.
But I for one would most definitely be "bent out of shape". If I eat something I shouldn't, I don't expect a pat on the head and a "there there, you'll do better tomorrow." But if you threaten to slap me, face to face or on this board, it's confrontational and I can't see how that would be helpful. But that's just me.
Ok, so maybe it got taken to far, but only in "this" thread. The motive here is to help people get over/around and through their cheats in a postive manner! Get to the bottom of it! Some blame themselves, say they are weak, have no willpower etc. I honestly do not believe that is the case.
There are some very good resons for cheats. Alot of cheats are brought on by a trigger food eaten prior to the cheat. I just want people to evaluate their cheat and try and figure out why it happened. Once they figure out the "why" factor they are able to move on and deal with it the next time!
My only goal with this is was to help people succeed.
if i understand this whole thread and the motive behind it, this is not meant to smack down any member that fouls up once in awhile or fails to get it right one day out of the month. i have not been to the thread that boonie referred to. i know some of the members in the challenge and i trust that whoever messed up got some wise words from the stronger ones in the challenge.
we have members that continually, weekend after weekend, month after month, get off plan becuase of outside influences. a party or depression, a trip or just not caring until they have gained back 10 pounds. this is nothing new, it's been a part of the board since i came here but it does seem to have gotten worse over the past several months. perhaps 'smack down' and 'slapping around' are bad choices of words? could be and that all may depend on the member. (at this point in the thread, i'm not even sure the OP even said those words) i've had some members say "Feel free to smack me around because i want to do my best" and then there's others that you know you can't be the same way. stern, maybe, but added with care and concern. i think we need to ask the re re re re peat offenders the hard questions like what's making you fall off your plan week after week?
cristy, you and i went through over a month of time getting you off caffeine and watching your progress. would it have been good for me to slap you around because you failed one day? no way! if, after 3 months of trying to stop caffeine and you got off track every 4 days, would i have gotten a bit more ..... what's a good word? stricter? that ain't it but maybe you know what i mean. i would have been less of a cheer leader and i would have started asking why were you continually taking in caffeine. what were the triggers? as it was, i didn't need to do that. you were steady on with what you wanted to accomplish. how i was with you may not be at all how i can be with someone else. each situation will be different.
i am not going to go after someone that makes a post about eating off plan when i know it is not the norm for them. sometimes, a member is harder on themselves than i would be anyway. nobody gets it right 100% of the time. i will however ask questions of those i come across that just are not getting anywhere because of self sabatoge, especially those in the journal forums. will i post or pm every time? doubtful. but if i see a continually downward spiral i will try to say something to that member. will i speak up if i see somebody claiming induction and eating bread? yes. will i pm if i see somebody on the dairy rung eating 2 servings of ice cream instead of 1? probably not.
i see posts that people aren't drinking enough water. do i send out the atkins army to attack? no. if i see a week of not enough water, then a pm or post can be done. it's the continual behavior, not the once in a blue moon type of thing that we are concerned with. and oh btw, jj is not getting enough water in these days. maybe jj could have used a pm or a post about that.
this might not be very eloquent. others have better ability with that than i do. the main focus here, as i see it, is to help get people to goal.
JIMMIE JOHNSON ~ NASCAR SPRINT CUP CHAMPION 2006-2009
4th STRAIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP
JUST BECAUSE IT'S LEGAL DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN EAT 3 HELPINGS OF IT. REMEMBER PORTION CONTROL
Life is hard. We all face hard stuff every day. People are mean on the subway and in the grocery stores....no we don't come here to get yelled at or "slapped around". Life does that anyway.
But why are we here? We came here for a reason. I want to get this weight off. I need to get healthy. I keep getting stuck. I'm still working on it. I like the words "tough love". Those with kids know that you can't teach all kids the same things in the same ways. My ds and dd are very different and we have to take different approaches. We also don't have to deal with any really bad behaviour or drug use or anything. Parents whose kids have those issues need to use yet another approach in their child rearing.
My point is, there is room for all of us here. I'm here to learn from the successes and even from the newbies. Everyone has something to offer in some way. If I don't want to be "yelled at" by Bren, I could run to Heidi for a hug instead. I have to figure out what I need. I'd love a hug. I think I need a "smack" sometimes though. I haven't taken offense to anything in this thread at all. People are slacking off a bit, but now a new season is upon us and maybe it's time to take a new approach. Maybe tough love will work and maybe it won't. But thank you everyone for caring enough to try and figure out what will work. Because ultimately, the point of this Board is to offer support and to help people succeed. I'm here for you. Thank you for being here for me.
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